“People think, increasingly it appears, that we shouldn’t be doing this. Well, let me start by saying we haven’t lost a single American in this war,” McConnell said. “Most of the money that we spend related to Ukraine is actually spent in the US, replenishing weapons, more modern weapons. So it’s actually employing people here and improving our own military for what may lie ahead.”

cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/4085063

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[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seriously, to listen to hexbears talk about the Ukranian invasion, you'd think that the US talked Ukraine into invading Russia just for fun, and that Russia was simply left with no choice.

The killing can stop absolutely any day now - all Putin has to do is pull out and pay for his mess, easy peasy

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should do more listening to hexbears because that sounds nothing like us.

[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All you have to do is read through this very thread to find numerous examples of hexbears acting like US liberals are primarily (or second only to Ukraine itself) for the ongoing conflict in Ukraine.

"Why could Ukraine have just bent over and let Russia take it over??? And why couldn't the rest of the world just pretend it never happened?? What about 'Murica in the middle east???"

Sounds pretty familiar to me.

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't see any of that, personally.

Any chance the liberal in your head is editoriakizing some straw men?

[–] VentraSqwal@links.dartboard.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's literally everywhere in this thread. There's history lessons abound about how bad Ukraine is (with no noticeable criticism of Russia) but no example of what should be done now except to have them give up their sovereignty, their most valuable land, and giving in to Russian's demands.

It's insane to me that these are the same people who would probably say that the US shouldn't have gone to Iraq or Afghanistan, or that the US shouldn't invade Cuba. In their view, since the US did a coup there once, I guess all their people deserve to die and lose their sovereignty? How does that make sense?

"No, we just want the US and Europe to stop giving them weapons to defend themselves!" OK then, then what do you think will happen? More deaths and then a loss of sovereignty obviously. Why is this on them and not on Russia, who simply have the option of stopping their aggression and walking away?

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net -3 points 1 year ago

It's literally everywhere in this thread. There's history lessons abound about how bad Ukraine is (with no noticeable criticism of Russia) but no example of what should be done now except to have them give up their sovereignty, their most valuable land, and giving in to Russian's demands.

Show one example, lib.