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[–] mrvictory1@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

In the worst case, you go to a forum of Arch Linux or an Arch-based distro and

  • You are kindly told to do research. This happens if the problem is too simple or common ie. caused by a recent upgrade and affecting many people.
  • You are warned because you have been told to do something and you have replied without doing that.

If you get punished, more often than not it is deserved because the helpers don't want to waste their time if help requester doesn't cooperate. Meanwhile OP, are you the creator of the video?

[–] FermatsLastAccount@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd disagree about that being the worst case scenario.

When I used to use Arch and asked a question on the Arch forum, they removed my post because they saw I was using Pamac so they assumed I was actually on Manjaro. They didn't ask me if I'm using Manjaro or anything, they just assumed I was and removed it.

I reposted the question and clarified that I was using Arch, but that got removed again due to it being a duplicate of a removed question.

I made a meta post about what I should be doing in order to not get my posts removed and that got removed as well, though I don't remember the reason they gave for that.

That was the last time I posted on the Arch forum and shortly after, I switched to Void Linux.

[–] mrvictory1@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sorry to hear that. Any sort of AUR helper, which includes Pamac, is not supported. If your question was related to Pamac, that may be why your post got removed. If you ever use Arch or a derivate again, try hitting EndeavourOS forums this time. They don't care which derivative you use as long as it isn't Manjaro. My points apply to present, I assume Arch became infamous when this was a more serious issue in the past.

Issue was not Pamac related, if it was then I'd have understood. They just saw that I had Pamac on my system and shut down my posts.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What's the problem with Manjaro? I like it, but I keep seeing people hate Manjaro. Is there some reason I shouldn't be using it?

[–] mrvictory1@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

The concept of Manjaro is in my opinion perfect, because in theory it allows to enjoy the latest and greatest software while minimizing bugs. But the execution has so many flaws.

  • The graphical package manager Pamac has DDOS'ed AUR twice.
  • Manjaro mirrors Arch packages and holds them back, so it trails a few weeks behind Arch Linux. But Manjaro does NOT do this for AUR, which results in breakages and results in the next bullet point.
  • Pamac offers users an easy way of installing AUR packages but this makes Manjaro vulnerable to breakages for unknowing users.
  • Manjaro's website's SSL certificate has expired 4 times. This required users to roll back time to receive updates.
  • There has been controversies around the treasurer of Manjaro as well as Manjaro establishing a company and becoming for-profit.
  • Some editions of Manjaro are infamously problematic. For example Budgie does not recommend Manjaro, citing its flaws. GNOME edition shipped a Firefox theme extension which wasn't supposed to be used in production because Firefox updates quickly. At one point, the extension broke.
[–] yote_zip@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

mrvictory1 already posted a lot of these, but there's some extras in here, and if nothing else there's extra credibility from so many people saying the same things: One, Two, Three, Four

TL;DR: they have a bad track record, their packaging lifecycle just plain sucks, and there's so many better distros that you could use instead. EndeavourOS is an easy in-place substitution.

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