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See, it's never their fault. Look how they're trying to deflect it back to the employees. I would say employees definitely made their wishes known in regards to returning to work. These bosses and executives can fuck off.
If there only was an easy way of understanding what employees wanted... But alas, since there isn't, forcing people to do something and then measuring how many of them resign seems to be the best way to figure it out.
"if only we'd had a better understanding of what employees wanted"
"I want to work from home"
"It's difficult to make decisions about real estate arrangements when we're not sure how our employees will feel in a month's time"
"I want to work from home"
"We need more data about employees needs"
"I could submit this in writing if it helps, I want to work from home"
"WE NEED MORE DATA! GET THE FUCK BACK TO YOUR DESK"
They knew. They say that because they don't actually want to fulfill their employees needs.
We want to WFH because we dont want a 2hr unpayed commute. The way that ks fixed is for employees to consider the commute part of their 9-5 but that means we are really only doing 10-4 with an hour from lunch.
We want WFH because our lunch breaks don't easily get taken over by meetings because we arent sitting at our desk of the break room. The hour is an actual hour you can't contact me so more "lost time".
With WFH its harder to keep people around after hours as they can quickly mark their chat so to afk. That means no more 4:30 pop ins saying we need to stay late.
Turns out that when your employees can force their work time no one givea away free time. When you end WFH and try to squeeze out more time you're going to piss off a lot of people.
Who the fuck works from 9 to 5? Dolly Parton?
The devs that still work at the place I started at 20 years ago. They actually have a start time of 8 and are expected to stay until 5. Earliest meeting scheduling times are at 8:30 and latest starts at 4:30. Oh and they pay horrible. But its difficult to get fired there.
But, that's not 9 to 5. That's 8 to 5.
Yeah because they wont be abke to fill the position. Thats terrible. Who works under those conditions?
Its the middle of no where. To find a similar job i had to move out of state 300+ miles away.
Most of the people who work there half the household income (i was yhe only income in our house) and they all were 40+ and didnt have expectations of doing more in their lives. They all had pensions (mine got cut at a stupid low number before it ended). It was only younger people leaving who were drowning.
[raises hand]
I worked 9-5 at my last job. It fuckin sucked.
What a way to make a living
Not you. 👅
Yeah, they're just sad it didn't work as expected and it makes them look bad.
Oh no! It's the consequences of my own actions! If only someone had told me I had to listen to what every single one of my employees had been telling me literally every chance they got.
Yeh I loved that. "Oh if only we'd known!!" Lol.
Yep, they didn't care to listen. They're only "sad" now because they can't bully people.
ROFL pretty sure there was like 10% of employees who wanted to return to work...most were middle management which realized their jobs relied on making sure people were at work.
I (mostly) returned to working in the office as soon as I could. For a few months it was great; almost zero traffic, relatively few distractions while I worked, with all of the upsides and few downsides. And I'd see people once in a while, and catch up. It was great. Now with people being expected to come in more, traffic and distractions are way up, fueled in large part by people who would rather be working more from home.
FTFT
Nailed it