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[–] M0oP0o@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am assuming you are an American, so I think you have sent no one.

[–] JDubbleu@programming.dev 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Pretty much. All US veterans who have died in Ukraine were volunteers. Just about everything we've given Ukraine is old military equipment we don't need, and it accounts for such a small amount in the total budget while absolutely fucking the greatest threat to Europe at the moment. It might be the best ROI we've ever gotten from anything ever.

This is coming from someone who is extremely anti-war, but that doesn't make me anti-defend yourself.

[–] Yaglis@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The original commenter is probably a troll or an idiot whose idea of peace is to put down your own weapon and raise your ass in the air and await the invader to come and fuck it.

Peace with Russia is not possible. The world attempted peace with Russia in 2014 after Russia said they would not invade more of Ukraine after Crimea, now the "peace advocates" want Ukraine to give up 1/3 of their country to appease Russia and "stop" the war. At this rate Eastern Europe will be part of Russia within a few short decades.

The war is not over until every millimeter has been retaken and Russia is pushed out.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The United States also gave tens of billions of dollars worth of aid following the collapse of the Soviet Union to Russia. We paid to have all of their nuclear material secured, including providing security detail at all of their nuclear sites. And this is how they repay us.