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Earlier in the pandemic many news and magazine organizations would proudly write about how working from home always actually can lead to over working and being too "productive". I am yet to collect some evidence on it but I think we remember a good amount about this.

Now after a bunch of companies want their remote workers back at the office, every one of those companies are being almost propaganda machines which do not cite sound scientific studies but cite each other and interviews with higher ups in top companies that "remote workers are less productive". This is further cementing the general public's opinion on this matter.

And research that shows the opposite is buried deep within any search results.

Have you noticed this? Please share what you have observed. I'm going paranoid about this.

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[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 47 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You missed the most important thing. Real estate investments that aren't allowed to go down in value, which they would if offices became superfluous. Just imagine how many buildings would become "worthless"/could be used for something else.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, this is BY FAR the biggest reason. Pretty much all the rich people and most big companies have huge investment in portfolios that contain a lot of commercial office spaces. If we were all allowed to work from home those investments would plummet and all the rich people and big companies would take MASSIVE losses on those investments. Which is why all the media and even companies like Zoom are trying to pull a 180 on working from home.

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Zoom forcing employees back to offices still baffles me

[–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

The video conferencing software that saved the world during covid and made all the companies survive the lockdown.

[–] AttackPanda@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

I feel like we need to talk about this more. Their whole model is promoting remote experiences and yet they are also forcing folk back to the office. I can’t think of a reason outside of external pressures that would happen.

[–] ScrivenerX@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

That is a huge pressure, but it's less obvious why a company in a business unrelated to real estate would want real estate prices high.

The secret is that companies aren't in the business of making a good or providing a service, they actually are just giant schemes for raising money for "investments". For example, airlines don't make their money off of selling tickets, but through prospecting jet fuel. Most companies aren't as direct and clear about what their business actually is.

Also the link between real estate and all of jobs isn't very clear and is very abstract. It's easy to see the costs and interactions with companies forced by working in an office, it's difficult to see how a building losing value effects anyone.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

In the Wall Street area of Manhattan, some of the biggest buildings are already being converted to apartments. It's been a trend for a while, because the older buildings are too expensive to rewire for computers/HVAC.

[–] Iamdanno@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A forward-thinking wealthy person would start buying these buildings at fire-sale prices and converting them to residential buildings.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

You have to be very choosey, because most office buildings aren't easily convertable