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[–] letsgocrazy@lemm.ee -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Drowning kills kids. Shall we get rid swimming pools?

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There are other, better ways to transport people that are not only more efficient, but significantly safer. Cars are basically the worst way our society could practically organise our transport needs.

There is no other way to swim than by getting in the water, but if your pool in particular keeps on killing loads of people then maybe your pool in particular has a problem and should be shut down.

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https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/home-and-community/safety-topics/deaths-by-transportation-mode/

Passenger vehicles are by far the most dangerous motorized transportation option compared. Over the last 10 years, passenger vehicle death rate per 100,000,000 passenger miles was over 20 times higher than for buses, 17 times higher than for passenger trains, and 595 times higher than for scheduled airlines.Other comparisons are possible based on passenger trips, vehicle miles, or vehicle trips, but passenger miles is the most commonly used basis for comparing the safety of various modes of travel.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm all for reducing the amount of cars on the road, but in many areas it's simply not practical not to own one.

I've done the math. Not owning a car at all or paying for note/gas/maintenance/insurance, and instead living in walking/cycling distance from work would require me to spend about $700/month more than I am now living 35 miles away and paying for my car expenses, and would leave me effectively stranded at work.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

in many areas it's simply not practical not to own one.

This is exactly the problem that I am trying to highlight. I don't think individual consumptive actions will fix this. This is a political issue that needs collective action to fix.

[–] olafurp@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Don't forget that your taxes go towards other people's driving. Gas, roads and parking comes out of your taxes.

Don't also forget that your commute is probably 1 hour each way of unpaid work.

[–] shrugal@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

If there was an alternative you couldn't drown in then yes, we should get rid of swimming pools.