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Zoom terms of service now require you to allow AI to train on ALL your data (nitter.net)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by randomguy2323@lemmy.kevitprojects.com to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Be careful with Zoom guys.

Edit: It seems that they have updated their TOS , however I will never trust a company like this , remember with all of this AI going around right now Data is the new oil.

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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 55 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you need teleconferencing with screen share I highly recommend Jitsi. Easy to set up, pretty low system requirements, and open source.

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

rustdesk too!

[–] elevator2182@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

~~On the thread about this on HN someone posted a link stating Jitsi has the same policy as Zoom regarding this matter. It’s equally bad.~~

Edit: I stand corrected, apologies. It’s not the same policy as zoom.

[–] lalo@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://www.8x8.com/terms-and-conditions/privacy-policy

It doesn't seem the ToS supports your claim. Can you provide a link?

Seems they may ask to use the meeting data if you record or livestream, but not otherwise. So not equally bad.

[–] elevator2182@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

from “4. Your Content” (emphasis mine)

You give 8×8 (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptations or other changes we make so that Your content works better with the Service), communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display, and distribute such content solely for the limited purpose of operating and enabling the Service to work as intended for You and for no other purposes.

Despite the good intention from the company, this sounds like lawyer-speak that legally protect them if they decided to use your content to train ML model. IANAL though.

But it’s not the same as Zooms policy. I agree. I stand corrected and edited my original comment.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm talking about using a self-hosted Jitsi instance. That one will work on a completely air-gapped network so you don't have to share data with them.

[–] Pokadots@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like I’m missing something, but air gapping a video conferencing system seems counterproductive

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Not if you have a large facility that needs videoconferencing and needs to be secure. Ostensibly there would be people who are also on the airgapped network.

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Sadly incorrect.

Louis Rossman has a video about zoom trying to sponsor him, Jitsi request only what is needed for functionality only and there terms of service mention that explicitly. How do you blur a background without detecting a face etc.