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I dont like tankies or tories any more than the next person, but breaking federation is just wrong.

I dont want to have to make a separate account just to get around that, mainly because this is actually already my account for getting around that!

Its quite easy to block a community at user level, if needed, and we are not the target of any spam, but now we users have lost the option of the ability to interact forever with a corner of the threadiverse, which i think is not cool.

If its just me thinking this way, fine, i'll just maintain several accounts, but i would hope its not, because its feeling like instances are gettinh pretty triggerhappy with the block button https://github.com/maltfield/awesome-lemmy-instances/tree/main

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[–] exohuman@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If someone says, “I hate black people” that’s racism, but if someone says “race based slavery should have never been ended and black people should lose their rights to live as they see fit” that’s an opinion. /s

You see how plain off that sounds?

[–] BananaTrifleViolin 1 points 1 year ago

This is a strawman argument. I was merely trying to give an example of the difficulties in absolutism when talking about moderation. My example may not be the best one but the concern is valid - anyone who thinks moderation will be easy in the Fediverse because everyone will be in harmony and agree on what is acceptable and what is not, is naive to be honest. There are already communities that don't adhere to the same rules and standards as others, and as you scale up the fediverse into millions of people and lots of communities exposed to each otherthe complexity will come to the fore.

Basically don't see the fediverse as a golden bullet for solving moderation issues or coming to a happy consensus. It removes the corporate control and influence but each community will come to it's own consensus about what is and isn't acceptable. Beehaw is an early example of that - they wish to control and vet who can participate in their community; that is an understandable aim due to the ethos of their community but it may be very difficult to stay federated and achieve that.

The fediverse is a great concept but I suspect we're going to see a lot of fragmentation into "miniverses" around acceptable codes of conduct and content, because a single broad consensus is very difficult to maintain at scale.