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[–] Neato@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Trucks are commercial vehicles. You need them for towing, hauling and other construction related activities. License, permit and tax them as such. If you have a huge boat or RV you need to tow, get and pay for a permit. Have the taxes be based on mileage so the more they're used, the more expensive it is. We invented weigh stations to make trucks compensate for the additional strain they put on roads. Same for these trucks. That'll help prevent them from being daily drivers.

[–] transientDCer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is literally what the gas tax is for - it's something like 40 cents per gallon in NC. The worse your gas mileage, the more you pay.

[–] biddy@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

40 cents per gallon, aka fuck all.

[–] Neato@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Cool. Let's do another for commercial vehicles and apply it to global warming.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Further, even if you have your boat or RV, relatively "smaller" vehicles can tow them confidently. A Santa Cruz is sized consistently with the pickup trucks of the past and can tow 5,000 lbs. There's a lot of SUVs about that same size that can tow that much or more, if you don't need a bed.

Further, the biggest reason these smaller vehicles are constrained on how much they tow is the American expedition that you can slap on your 5,000 lb trailer and drive 75 mph down the road. In Europe many cars have significantly higher towing capacities for exact same model as the American version, owing to the speed limits imposed on trailering.

The ridiculous "must look like a semi" pickup truck situation needs to pass. Those trucks have a purpose, but for it to be a likely "default" choice for a household is silly.