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Was anyone else surprised to see Kbin being written in PHP? (lemmy.sdf.org)

submitted 1 year ago by WatTyler@lemmy.sdf.org to c/programming@beehaw.org

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I don't know if it's due to over-exposure to programming memes but I certainly believed that no one was starting new PHP projects in 2023 (or 2020, or 2018, or 2012...). I was under the impression we only still discussed it at all because WordPress is still around.

Would a PHP evangelist like to disabuse me of my notions and make an argument for using PHP for projects such as Kbin in this day and age?

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[–] ferm@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Having spent my college years writing dozens of Node apps, when I got a job writing PHP I actually loved it. It was weird at first, the syntax looks old and gross, and it certainly doesn't have the sex-appeal. That being said, I didn't have to spend hours setting up an environment, I didn't have to think much about how to pull in packages, and concurrency via async/await made my life so much easier. The just-copy-everything mentality also meant I could basically never make a mistake ;)

I write C++ (for games) now and often wish things were as easy as when I wrote PHP.

[–] Hexorg@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Ease of use + networked nature was the bane of PHP in term of security. Everyone and their grandma wanted to make a php site but they weren’t exposed to potential vulnerabilities they could make. Which is why php in part has a notoriety to be vulnerable - a lot of people used it, some made mistakes, so there were many vulnerable code bases.