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The share of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents who believe that President Joe Biden’s 2020 election win was not legitimate has ticked back up, according to a new CNN poll fielded throughout July. All told, 69% of Republicans and Republican-leaners say Biden’s win was not legitimate, up from 63% earlier this year and through last fall, even as there is no evidence of election fraud that would have altered the outcome of the contest.

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[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Where did I suggest both sides are the same?

In the very last line of your previous comment

This is a problem on both sides of the aisle

I'll be honest, I'm not going to address any other parts of your comment because I just didn't read the rest of it. That first line told me all I needed to know, as soon as you were called out on your blatant right-wing talking points you immediately go to "I didn't say that" while it's still plainly visible in your previous comment, moving the goal posts as needed around loose semantics so you can point and say "the exact words I said are..." When we all know damn well what you meant.
No amount of word twisting or mental gymnastics will ever make this a problem on "both sides of the aisle" because there's absolutely no comparison between the shortfalls of the left and the outright atrocities of the right and if you think you can draw any comparison between the two you obviously haven't been paying any attention to American politics at all over the past 7 years and any argument you may have to the contrary is uninformed and invalid. Practice your trolling elsewhere, you're not going to fool anyone here.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pointing out that Nazis don't want to compromise with Jews, and Jews don't want to compromise with Nazis is not a "both sides are the same" argument. One side is clearly in the right, and the other side is clearly in the wrong. They aren't at all the same.

The "echo chamber" point I was making is that in our modern public discourse, the "Jews" are only talking to other Jews, and the "Nazis" are only listening to other Nazis. Neither side is actually engaging the other, and the political spectrum is becoming absurdly polarized as a result.

[–] Rubanski@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you say that the Jews should talk with the Nazis so that they maybe tone down the whole Endlösung thing a bit?

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 0 points 1 year ago

I'm saying that the algorithms that just show us the content we want to see have killed political discourse. I'm saying that when we kick, ban, block, ignore, don't-even-read, and otherwise censor ideas we don't like, we are actively contributing to the polarization of the political spectrum. We are complicit in creating the echo chambers.

When a Nazi walks up to a synagogue and is turned away at the door, a Nazi walks away. When he is "engaged", he will walk away a former Nazi, or he will be running, or he will be carried out.