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[–] mojo@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm saying it's not a gender specific issue, but I guess you'd rather play a victim. If you want experience from a men's perspective, I have zero issue with emotional support when I'm talking to girls I can trust.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago

I think that you are both wrong and right. Societal treatment of mental health issues is indeed quite poor regardless of gender. However, it is important to realize that there ARE differences that relate directly to one's presenting gender.

Just as women are not taken seriously by health professionals, men are frequently treated as less-than by western culture at-large, if we show anything but chauvinistic bravado. This lack of care has had a profound impact on both young and old men who have any mental illness, leading to isolation, and becoming vulnerable to radicalization by those actively preying on them and using them as tools of violence or suicide.

It's a real, gender-specific problem that is well-encapsulated in the proverb "A child not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth."

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Guess which hand you are in the picture.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm saying the complete opposite of "be a man" that support is out there for men. Are you even attempting to read comments in good faith, or are you reading some completely different text that isn't there?

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you disagree with the premise that men who reach out are told by society to be a man instead, and want to bring up women's problems instead of acknowledging the problem because you have 'girls you can trust'. To top it off you respond to someone pointing out your whataboutism by accusing someone of 'playing the victim'.

That is what I am responding to, you dismissing the issue while claiming that are aren't and doing the exact thing being discussed in your responses.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Alright I think this convo is done since you are clearly taking this in bad faith after I clarified multiple times that is nothing close to what I said. Find a strawman somewhere else to argue against.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Saying "I am not hitting you" while hitting someone doesn't mean you aren't hitting them.