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[–] 3yiyo3@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Ok, I also agree conditions of life for proletariat are getting better, but this is not enough proof of proletariat really having the power in their hands. My suspicion ia that state is no longer in control of the proletariat.

[–] m532@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 week ago (5 children)

My suspicion ia that state is no longer in control of the proletariat.

Whats your reasoning behind this?

[–] 3yiyo3@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (4 children)

State seems to be under the control of a governing class that is already separated from proletariat, and the socialist idea of workers having direct control over the state institutions in that sense seems to no be a reality there. Bureaucrat governing specialists class seems to not be exactly the idea pf workers democracy. Socialism needs direct democracy in some form and not "representatives" that already live in a different reality.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

That's absolutely not the case. Here’s an article explaining that Chinese system actually encourages decentralized governance and grassroots organization from bottom up. https://www.noemamag.com/what-the-west-misunderstands-about-power-in-china/

Similarly, the government is also organized based on using grassroots structures as its foundation https://news.cgtn.com/event/2021/who-runs-the-cpc/index.html

You're making claims out of ignorance here.

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