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[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 76 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (3 children)

As long as they fill the empty silence with some kind of verbal answer, no matter how incoherent, the other party has to respond in good faith and the issue becomes the argument and not the thing

Every conversation with a conservative is just the copy and pasted Sartre quote over and over again.

[–] Doubledee@hexbear.net 30 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

Yeah I'd largely burnt out of talking with chuds about anything serious a year or two ago, I would only ask things because I was curious about what unhinged answer they'd have to a weird question. But after the election I've had no urge to even do that, I already know what stupid things they'll try and it's not even funny anymore.

[–] SoJB@lemmy.ml 26 points 19 hours ago (6 children)

Only one method, throughout all of human civilization, has ever worked to bring justice to the evil.

And I’m not allowed to post it.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 7 points 16 hours ago

I stopped engaging with chuds online back in like 2013 lol. They don't change and have only gotten worse since then.

[–] halykthered@lemmy.ml 27 points 20 hours ago

Your valid points are greeted with transient goalposts and originally misrepresented ideas, unintentionally of course.

My favorite tactic is when they ask you a question, and then repeat a snarky response, loudly, as you try to answer. But if you get angry for having your buttons pushed, you're the problem.

What would have been discussions in a bygone era have now become dunk-a-thons. Ideas and opinions are no longer meant to be shared and debated for the betterment of all, but to be wielded to discredit and shame. Empathy and concern have been replaced by rage and confusion, an environment where no learning can ever take place.

From what I've noticed, even if the opposition has a valid point, it's buried under so much aggresion that the average person refuses to concede a point for three reasons:

(1) They know the opposition will not concede anything in return, because how could they possibly be wrong? Your opinion is wrong simply for not being theirs, and you aren't worthy of respect for it. They will forever have a point on the board, and you will never have one, so why give them the satisfaction?

(2) They don't want to admit to the opposition being right in any regard due to not wanting to overinflate their already stretched ego

(3) The point you concede will be used against you, out of context, repeatedly, as a dig.

Something, something, pigeons playing chess. It's better not to engage. They're all trolls.