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Unpopular opinion - I like the look & the idea of the Cybertruck. I think it’s a cool looking vehicle. I like the design and the concept of an edgy light-duty electric pickup truck.
I’d never buy one - they’re too expensive, have way too many issues, and Musk is a fucking chode. But I take issue with people who call it “ugly.”
Personally, I think most “traditional” pickup trucks are ugly. The F150, Ram, Silverado? Those are at the very best - boring. They’re definitely not attractive. At least the Cybertruck is a fresh concept for a pickup.
I recently bought a Hyundai Ioniq 5. It shares a couple design elements of the Cybertruck- simple polygons, angular, sharp edges. Obviously not nearly as extreme, but if a more reliable & less shithead-led company released a wildly / surreally designed vehicle similar to the Cybertruck, I’d consider it.
The cybertruck design is dangerous.
The sharp edges with raw steel can cut someone.
Someone did already get cut badly on their cybertruck
They roll the edges of steel for a reason, it makes it safer
Granted. Rack that up to “too many issues” as I said. The Cybertruck can still have the clean (less rounded) edges without being sharp enough to cause harm. There are other cars with “angular” designs which don’t cause bodily harm.
If you typed out the description of the Cybertruck, I'd like it. A DeLorean crossed with an Chevrolet El? EV? Stainless Steel(Although aluminum body would be better for weight)? Sign me up.
Problem is, that's not what it looks like. It looks like a low poly render of a boring suv. And like an suv, you can't really do truck things with it. Say what you want about the appearance of a truck(and I don't like the appearance of modern pickups), you can tow with them and have plenty of storage space in the bed. Well, ymmv on "plenty", but it's still more then a cybertruck. If you don't need space or towing, just get a suv. I'd say station wagon, but they don't make those anymore.
A vehicle should exist for utility before it exists for style.
The SUV is really just a mini van. Mini vans got a bad rep, which I think is a shame because I LOVED my Honda Odyssey. It drives like a car, and has a 3rd row that you can actually sit adults in. Also, with all the seats down, and middle seats removed, you could carry a LOT. We fit two full sofas from Ikea back there. It was a tight fit, but it worked great.
For whatever reason people don't like the idea of mini vans, so they made the suv because TRUCK. We replaced the Odyssey with a Subaru Ascent, and that is great too, it has all wheel driving, and a lot more bells and whistles than the old Odyssey. The 3rd row is not nice to sit in as an adult though, and I miss the sliding doors, those were great in tight spaces.
They just need to put more sliding doors on these vehicles they expect people to get in and out of the back seats.
SUVs are minivans for people too insecure to admit that they need a minivan.
So much of the car buying community is just letting yourself get up sold by images of a family of 5, cruising the open road, probably Alaska or Wyoming, quickly swerving out of the way of falling boulders or smoothly going over potholes, when they're ninety nine percent of the time, they'll be stuck in traffic and driving the same hand full of miles.
Most "SUVs" are lies -- misnamed glorified station wagons. What an SUV is supposed to be is a vehicle that can ford streams and crawl over rocks. I own an old Toyota 4Runner and a Kia Sedona. The Sedona is absolutely the better car for most uses (especially hauling stuff), but it absolutely cannot do the things I use the 4Runner for.
Please don't besmirch the beautiful station wagon :(
They're way more functional and pedestrian-safe than SUVs.
It's not ugly. It's hideous. It's a 6 year old child's drawing turned into an actual vehicle.
Cybertrucks are a fresh concept for a pickup like this is a fresh concept for a family car.
I dunno man, the homer had class and character... the cyberschmuck has neither
I do like the idea of shaking up established notions when it comes to aesthetics, design, and functionality. The Cybertruck really is a concept car that actually made it to production - you just don't see that.
That said, I greatly dislike everything else that has come from this. It's become this weird divisive thing, a political statement, a rolling monument to billionaire hubris, an expensive flex, and in general, saying things loudly at great expense to the owner on so many fronts. It doesn't even do its stated purpose - a pickup truck - all that well. All we need are statistics that indicate that these are dangerous to everyone else on the road, and it'll tick just about every "bad" box there is.
It reminds me of when the Hummer first came out, and all you saw was rich people like Arnold driving them around.
Years ago, some rich kid got one for his birthday. Instantly sunk it in a swamp thinking it could go anywhere.
I know they're inherently not very safe, but I've always wanted a stylish/futuristic cabover pickup, like the Dodge Deora concept:
I love it. Reminds of the Ford Nucleon concept with a fixed wheel base.
Thunderbirds are go!
Which...way is the front? I mean does it have a really long deck, or is the hood really long?
It's a cabover, so it's like an actual European lorry, just smooshed down. So really long deck, and the front is very close to the driver.
Thanks. There is no doors? Does the driver have to Dukes of Hazzard it to get in?
Back when it was first revealed in 2019 Musk hadn't yet morphed into his final chud form and the thing was to be priced at $39k. I thought it looked cool and the price was right, I honestly would have considered buying one given the federal subsidies.
Here we are, 5 years later and Musk is yet another of Putin's puppets actively helping Trump and the online legions of morons destroy the country and the Cybertruck is now $80k with no upgrades, $100k with.
I was never in love with it, but at this point buying it is a lot like buying a red MAGA hat. It pegs you as a particular type of dumbass, particularly given its reputation for terrible quality control. The kind of dumbass that spends six figures to trigger the libs.
He announced this after he tried to insert himself into the Thai cave rescue and called the guy actually doing something "a pedo guy".
Also, since Elon Musk won the ensuing defamation case, you can now legally call Elon "Pedo Guy" and he can't stop you
I didn't think it was ugly until I saw one in person and walked around it myself... Something about it feels so wrong, like they dressed up a junker with big metal panels for a 90s sci-fi prop. It's unnecessarily bulky.
I'm big on the form-follows-function mindset of beauty for stuff like cars and this one seems like Elmo's son drew a car in markers and he said "FIT A VEHICLE IN THIS SHAPE"
Actually, my main takeaway wasn't "this thing is ugly" - it was "this thing looks fuckin dangerous"
Well, unpopular it is. I saw once a picture of two Cybertrucks in a desert and the first thing that came to mind was an 80s low budget sci fi movie scene.
"Top men" in charge of bad sci-fi movies made this observation long before the rest of us. We're in good company.
Is that Big McLargehuge?!
I LOVE 80s low budget sci fi movies!
I thought they looked cool when first announced but two things changed since then: I saw them from more than just the best angles (look dumb AF from most angles) and also musk showed everyone he's a shitrat. Both are good reasons to hate these garbage vehicles
I could have written this comment word for word. Extra on point because I'm actively ambiviating on getting an Ioniq 5 or a rivian.
Nissan should make an electric Titan that looks like the old Alpha-T concept. That thing looked so awesome.
I don't follow trucks, so this was the first I heard of the Alpha-T. Would definetly take that over the Cybertruck.
Here it is for anyone else not familiar. It may have been a bit much for 2001, but in the 2010s with the Total Recall and Blade Runner remakes, this would've fit in great!
I'm following the development of Edison Motors, which will offer Diesel/EV hybrid kits for pickups and semitrucks. An unadvertised aspect of this is that because they'll also have too offer repair parts, you'll be able to make a pure EV pickup truck as well. This will also have the added benefit of not having any spyware installed.
I have an old square body truck on the farm that I would love to convert to EV.
man I just want to convert my element. give me 120 mile range and I'm good, I only use it for hauling wood and moving shit around anyway.
I vaguely remember a time when it felt like all these small companies were supposedly working in vehicle conversion kits and I was excited about all the cars that could get saved and brought into the next century, but I feel they were all vaporware since I've never heard of one actually existing in real life.
It was one of the few moments where I actually felt close to being alive in the future that was promised to me as a child. Maybe someday...
A big problem with that idea is, first, everything on the car is often worn out by the time the engine is done for, and if you use a new vehicle, you're buying a whole drive train for no good reason.
Second is, older vehicles are often less safe, and outdated in terms of the technology on board.
Valid points. My brain is placing this supposed electric conversion time period during the same time as everyone was dropping an LS in all the things, so I remember feeling why can't we electrify the things instead.
A lot of those old ones were selling kits that used overbuilt golf cart motors. They worked, but were underwhelming. As EVs became more mainstream, people started pulling EV drive trains from wreaks and either DIYing it or hiring an independent shop to do it.
Edison has done real world, on road testing of their semitruck drive train with a loaded(and maybe overloaded) haul of logs. The family that owns Edison Motors also owns a logging company, so they're interesting is using what they're making. They're also shipping the first full size pickup truck kits to their partners for testing.
They also teased a smaller drive axle that would work with smaller trucks or jeeps.
That sounds promising about Edison's background. It sounds like they have both personal interest in getting the projects to be successful, and also real world experience with the types of industry things they're looking to improve. I'll have to check them out.
If it was a little tiny electric car like a Nissan Leaf that was 'edgy' and didn't have Elon as CEO I could totally see myself getting one.
It still looks cool, just costs too much, doesn't deliver, and has Elon at the controls. Cringey, but cool.
Have a look at the Nismo Leaf, its only a set of wheels and lowering springs off being cool.
Neat concept, but even from design and then seeing them now in the real world: cybetrucks looked to me like a car that a ragtag bunch of undergrad engineers made from welding a bunch of metal panels together.
The go-cart my high school metalworking class built looks better then that piece of shit.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. What is ugly to others, may be beautiful to you.
I've been told that I love ugly cars. Like the Pontiac Aztec, the Subaru Baja, and the Honda element. You'll find people either love or hate them, but I commonly love the cars that most people find polarizing. And the cyber truck is indeed one of the polarizing cars that I like too.
I had to look up those three cars and they're all pretty basic. They shouldn't be polarizing at all. If you want something out there and modern, the Aptera's shape is purely dictated by aerodynamics.
Looks like a Velorex on steroids, love it.
I have a preorder in haha, and I really want them to succeed. I love their aerodynamic purpose, and I don't think it looks half bad, but people cringe when I show them.
I don't care if it's a lil ugly, I care that it can go about 2-3x as far as a standard EV sedan on the same amount of batteries before factoring in 20-40 free miles a day from the freakin sun.
You are the first person I've seen say they like the look. But if we all liked the same thing, what a boring place this would be. Or more boring.