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[–] mim@lemmy.sdf.org -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

No, it started that way? Do you mean started to be more all encompassing?

So, didn't the term come to describe people who support the USSR imperialist practices by rolling into countries with tanks?

Anyone who has researched the USSR enough to cut through capitalist propaganda knows Russia is now a neolib-ish bourgeois democracy.

Have you ever seen anything written by the average lemmy tankie? They will defend Russia because it's not the US.

If the US invades a middle eastern country because of "terrorists", the true motive is oil (which I don't disagree with). But if Russia invades Ukraine because they could potentially become a competitor petrol state in Europe more aligned with the EU, then it's actually "nazis".

[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

They will defend Russia because it’s not the US.

Taking this at face value, that is still extremely different from "defend Russia because they believe in the intrinsic merit of the Soviet project" as you suggested before. The liberal mobsters who took over Russia tried to join the NATO club but were rejected, and the current situation is in many respects a consequence of that.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Have you ever seen anything written by the average lemmy tankie? They will defend Russia because it’s not the US.

No, they will defend Russia's actions because they understand the lead up to the war. The coup, the ceasefire violations, the waves of ethnically russian ukrainian refugees. And because they understand that the west expending itself on unfavorable terms is good for multipolarity and for the people the west would have otherwise used those weapons on.