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[–] Bigfish@lemmynsfw.com 320 points 2 weeks ago (64 children)

Congestion pricing is such a good idea everywhere there is rock solid public transit alternatives. Where there's not, it just becomes a tax on the poor.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (45 children)

If you can afford a car, you can afford an e-bike, even a cargo e-bike. Cars are luxuries compared to bicycles. Never forget that.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

A car can be used to move an entire family safely. You need 3-5 bikes to do the same far less safely including the very young, old, infirm.

Fatality rate for sedans is 2 per billion vehicle miles. Bikes are about 110.

Bear in mind that this is in the US which has bad drivers driving aggressively in environs ill suited.

Furthermore the average person commuting by car commutes 30 minutes by car the average bus rider an hour.

These are often distances too great to bike.

[–] Highstronaught 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you are moving a full car of people, it's probably the best way to get around. However the average occupancy of a car is 1.2 people. The vast majority of cars have just 1 person, often driving less than 5 miles which is an easy distance to cycle.

Having more people cycling means the roads are less congested for the people who really need to use them. And with less people driving and more cycling, it should hopefully get safer.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world -4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

People need the car for the average commute which is more than five miles its about half an hour by car which means half of commuters drive longer. Having already expended substantial resources on the car the cost of a 5 mile jaunt is about $1 to 1.50 round trip and 10 minutes or 30-45 minutes including waiting and 3-5 for the bus.

Alternatively if the wealter is neither very cold hot or rainy and you have an extra hour and don't mind arriving sweaty and rumpled you could bike and risk your life more than driving a 1950s car!

Its an impractical idea that doesn't scale compared to telecommuting and improving public transit.

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