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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

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Vegans being banned and comments being deleted from !vegan@lemmy.world for being fake vegans.

From my perspective, the comments were in no way insulting and just part of completely normal interaction. If this decision reflects the general opinion of the mod team, then from my perspective, the biggest vegan community on Lemmy wants to be an elitist cycle of hardcore vegans only, not allowing any slightly different opinion. Which would be very unfortunate.

PS: In contrast to the name of this community, I don't want to insult anyone here being a 'bastard'. I just want to post this somewhere on neutral ground. I would really appreciate an open discussion without bashing anyone.

PPS: Some instances or clients seem to compress the screenshots in a way they're unreadable. Find the full resolution here: https://imgur.com/a/8XdexTm

Linking the affected users and mods: @Cypher@lemmy.world @gaael@lemmy.world @gredo@lemmy.world @iiGxC@slrpnk.net @veganpizza69@lemmy.world @veganpizza69@lemmy.vg @jerkface@lemmy.ca @TheTechnician27@lemmy.world @Sunshine@lemmy.ca @Aqua@lemmy.vg

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[–] gaael@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago (65 children)

Lol found out here that I had been banned from the community. Ty for sharing the information :)

Regarding the matter, I understand their reaction.
I've been interacting with some vegan circles IRL and some are more "hardcore" (not in a negative way) than others. When you consider animal exploitation as mass slavery, mass torture and mass murder, it becomes increasingly difficult to tolerate even light deviations from the all-vegan path.

This being said, I would have preferred they had a better wording for the temp ban reason than "fake vegan" by which I feel insulted and hurt.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world -3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

When you consider animal exploitation as mass slavery, mass torture and mass murder,

... it is the time to speak to a psychiatrist.

[–] gaael@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Hello dear internet user,
It looks like you need to educate yourself on at least 3 topics before using your keyboard again:

  • why is it hurtful and not ok to rebutt other's opinions by suggesting they are mentally ill?
  • are other animals sentient, sociable and do they feel emotions and pain?
  • how are meat and dairy products produced and how many animals live in this system?

Once you've done the work, we'll be able to agree on the basics facts and exchange arguments on how we see the situation and the precise words we want to use.

Looking forward to engaging with you in good faith in the future,
Me.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world -2 points 4 days ago

Hello dear internet user

It looks like you need to educate yourself about the terms like "food chain" and "what is the difference between food and humans".

Once you've done the work, we'll be able to agree on the basics facts and exchange arguments. Looking forward to engaging with you in good faith in the future.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago (26 children)

The "all or nothing" crowd really knows how to stomp on progress, huh?

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 week ago (6 children)

It's like they don't realize that by being this hostile towards any other viewpoints, they drive away people who might otherwise be interested in becoming vegan or want to learn more. All it does is harm the community in the long run, and then they wonder why there's a stigma around vegans. That stigma then feeds into a persecution complex and that becomes a nasty vicious cycle.

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[–] quirzle@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 week ago

(not in a negative way)

Debatable.

One of my best friends is a long-term vegan. He generally avoids telling people because he so strongly hates being lumped in with this crowd of asshats.

[–] AngryishHumanoid@reddthat.com 24 points 1 week ago

Not a lot of 100% vegan grocery stores, where do they get their food?

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