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[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This is the first step to annex another region.

  1. Historical Claim
  2. Support separatist or militia in these region
  3. Fabricate or Encourage attack on the border
  4. Impose light economical sanctions
  5. People in such country will get fed up and will increase clashes with the government.
  6. Government start anti-usa imperialism and start military campaign against them.
  7. USA say they are committing genocide or something and question their sovereignty
  8. USA announce special operation to restore peace

Cycle continue ….

We saw this in Lebanon, Libya, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Ukraine and many other countries that the USA has admitted funding different group inside them to destabilize them. But now it seems trump plan or asked to do the same with both Mexico and canada.

They can justify it with Mexico because of drugs and immigrants, but it is harder for Canada. They US news tried to blame canada for “terrorist” and “illegal immigrants” but it seems they are following the same stories with Mexico.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

They'll just claim illegal immigrants represent an "invasion." They'll use that as casus belli to invade Mexican territory, and then simply claim occupied lands as spoils of war. They'll also be able to make a practical argument, "well Mexico clearly can't manage the border regions. Look at the anarchy there!"

I don't see MAGA trying to seize all of Mexico. They wouldn't want to take the heavily populated core around Mexico City, that's for sure. But the more lightly populated border states? That would be much more tantalizing. Also, they could justify intervention in the border states as "protecting American investments," referring to all the factories US companies have built right across the border.

Relocating an entire industrial plant is hard and expensive. One of the quickest ways to "bring manufacturing back to America" is to simply move the border to encompass already existing factories.

Canada would be a lot harder to justify, but casus belli can always be found. It just takes one person fleeing to Canada to escape charges for getting or performing an abortion. Suddenly Canada is "harboring fugitives." Or attempt to relitigate the US/Canada border disputes of the 1800s. Or just claim fentanyl is being smuggled in from Canada. Etc. A casus belli can always be found or manufactured.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago

Lebanon, Libya, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Ukraine

Is that all? Isn't there another country you're missing?

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

You lost me at Ukraine. Ukraine was a domestic revolution against a Russian puppet government that acted in defiance and betrayal of the Ukrainian people. The Ukrainians didnt need any help getting pissed off and rioting in the streets when their president stabbed the entire nation in the back.

that when the shit hit the fan and the Yanukovitch government was about to fall, every regional and global power on earth was scrambling to try to get a favorable outcome while the streets of Kyiv were being fought between a mob of protestors and those protecting the Puppet state government.

those "phonecalls" that Russian propagandists love to talk about, weren't quite the Gotcha that they think they were, because dozens of countries were having those same phone calls, it doesnt happen often, but anytime a state government falls, thats actually normal for those calls to go on. Its outside actors trying to put the peices back together in a way that benefits them and their interests. (if you think Western countries having those calls on Ukraine's future was bad, boy do I have a horse to sell you on what was happening in Russia, Short version, it resulted in a full scale war.)

People talk about what caused the Euromaidan and who was responsible for it all the time, but critical and central issue they never seem to bring up when they argue about "Big bad Russia, evil CIA coup, etc" is the Ukrainian people. The population of the country where it happened is treated as if it wasn't a factor with agency at all, that they only revolted because some guys at the US embassy gave them some signs and told em to. that line of reasoning frankly needs to be told to fuck off.

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I think there is a misunderstanding, the Ukraine reference how a global power "Russia" did the same steps before the military actions.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

I thought you were insenuating that Euromaidan was a US coup, which is a common Russian Propaganda Copypasta. my mistake.

[–] FolknForage@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Re Ukraine - literally what Russia did, and will continue to do in every other place they can

[–] FarmTaco@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

ah yes, the annexed regions of Lebanon, Libya, Iraq, Syria and Yemen.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

As far as Lebanon, Syria, etc., the theft of these lands is an explicit goal of "greater israel".

If it's not possible to annex, it's ok to just invade, murder people, steal resources, and create refugee crisis. Check out the current state of Iraq, Yemen, and Libya...

[–] FarmTaco@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

is Israel in the room with us right now?

[–] Kitathalla@lemy.lol 3 points 17 hours ago

No, they're a little busy in

syria.

[–] Dremor@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And Ukraine, don't forget Ukraine. Just replace the US with Russia in the whole post and you get closer to the truth.

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

If you cannot see how "ISRAEL" runs the "USA" government through "AIPAC" and how both represent the same "Entity" I would recommend you read more about what they "Publicly" publish and what the "world" see happening.

These are "current" example that where we saw "Israeli" government official say "Not a Country". It also the same when we look at "China" and "Taiwan" and any other "super power" vs "neighbouring nation"