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[–] john89@lemmy.ca -5 points 2 days ago (6 children)

This is a good thing.

Let people say what they want. If you don't like it, you can always ignore them.

[–] halfeatenpotato@lonestarlemmy.mooo.com 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I see what you're getting at - if we're gonna allow our citizens freedom of speech, this is part of what it looks like. For the record, these dumb ass takes on my LGBTQ+ peeps do NOT align with my own personal feelings. However, freedom of speech is objectively a good thing.

Problem is that entities like Meta and X are suppressing the voices of people that are making comments against the status quo and challenging the uber rich, and elevating the voices of the bigots.

All that to say I think that's why people are downvoting you, but I agree with you.

As a libertarian, I love the saying, "your rights end where mine begin." You can say whatever you like, up until the point where it starts violating my rights. Harassment violates my rights, and if you harass me with your speech, regardless of the actual content, you should be silenced on that platform.

The way I see it, harassment has two parts to it:

  • damages
  • intent

If I offend on accident, I should have the opportunity to make it right. If I offend on purpose, I should be banned.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's how disinformation works.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It also strives in the world of censorship, it just serves the dominant force then.

[–] Dekkia@this.doesnotcut.it 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Hard disagree.

If one person's rights negatively affect another persons rights you can't just rule one right to be more important in every situation. There's gotta be more nuance than that.

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You can say whatever you want without affecting other people's rights.

[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How does writing a comment on Facebook negatively affect anyone’s rights?

Speech on Facebook/Instagram/etc can constitute harassment, which is a rights violation. That said, harassment has two parts to it:

  • actual harm to receiver
  • intended harm by the speaker

The second is harder to prove, but fortunately social media has a lot of samples to pick from to demonstrate a pattern.

I'm half with you. You can say what you want, but if you harass people, regardless of the content of your speech, you should be banned/silenced on private platforms.

[–] Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You are a mentally deranged paedophile that wants to mutilate children.

Just ignore me while I tell everyone I know about that paedophile john89, okay?

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

Me when I like to spread disinformation on the internet