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It probably seems weird asking this on Lemmy, but of course posting this on Reddit would get banned or taken down. Reddit doesn’t like being critical of Reddit. Anyways….

Over the last 10 years as a Reddit user I’ve believe the amount of accounts that are bots or foreign bad actors has tipped past 50%. I have no statistics to speak of, but would love if somebody did and could share.

Based purely on some of the conversations, posts, rage bait, strong ideologies, etc… I’m pretty convinced that a reasonable sample of humans could not or would not act the way they do on that platform. So often now I see posts that I feel are specifically attempting to sow discord and disagreement.

Does anyone else agree? What percent of users do you think are bots? Foreign bad actors?

Sadly, I think Reddit has no desire to find out or do anything about it. There would be no upside to them correcting their advertising numbers.

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[–] stembolts@programming.dev 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Just an opinion from someone who has been around the internet for a long while. It wouldn't surprise me if most of the comments are bots. I remember what it was like to interact with humans, even dumb humans, and they aren't nearly as blatantly agenda-driven as commenters on what I'd call "visible social media".

There are plenty of people who have a vested interest in disrupting means of communication and organization and they are investing a great deal in "false idea proliferation".

My 0.02¢.

Oh, you asked for a percentage, in the popular subs? 80+%. In niche subs that don't affect the Overton Window? 5-30%. And yes, these numbers are favricated outward from my butt hole.

[–] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 10 points 1 week ago

Probably on the nose.

Source: former forum user that moved to Facebook during the consolidation that moved to reddit during the monitization that moved to the fediverse during the enshitification.

I have no nostalgia about leaving sites that turn to shit or become rage bait click holes. It's just stupid time wasting media.

[–] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

With you on this. As an old school netizen who watched digg enshitification that led me to reddit, then over the years was astonished about how extreme the rightward shift went... I mean the trump choo choo memes on the front page bought and paid for by Steve Bannon and other net savvy investors. It really went to absolute shit. When they banned the API it was a blessing in disguise cause no excuse to go back, especially with the lemmyverse.

TLDR fuck Reddit that platform is dead

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

i've likewise been moving from one social media platform onto another since things like bbs & icq were dominant; i used to believe that everything w money behind it eventually enshitified until i started seeing enshitification signs on the larger diet reddit instances like .world and lemm.ee

the diet reddit instances don't have anywhere near the same financial backing that reddit or bluesky has; yet they do the same consent manufacturing and narrative shaping that reddit, bluesky and legacy media does.

and i wonder how its going to look in the future as the enshitification drives liberals to eventually abandon their diet reddit instances once they realize that reddit or bluesky can do "general interest" better than any lemmy instance ever can.

lemmy was built for political outcasts and i suspect that the original leftists instances will always stick around and continue to form new relationships with other leftists and other instances from non-mainstream political factions; but i'm going to assume that the sheer massive size of the general-interest/diet-reddit instances (relatively speaking) will have an impact nonetheless

[–] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was on lemmy.world for a week. My goodness the astonishing degree of bad takes and western propaganda. Yeah, I mean. I hate the data silos but at least on lemmygrad and hexbear there's a modicum of actual good faith dialogue.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

Yep, I essentially use Lemmy.ml to correct misconceptions about Marxism, AES, etc and use my Hexbear account for actual discussion and furthering my understanding of Marxism via interacting to LG and HB.

[–] Coskii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago

You take your fractional pennies and get out of here with those rough guesses I can't refute or deny!

I'd honestly be surprised if a majority of any social space was bots... However I do believe a majority of initial posts are bot generated. Especially for news based spaces. It just makes sense to plug in a bot to whatever biased news source you subscribe to and just have it post new articles every 5 minutes.

Much like the average American voter, I believe in that 50% silent users who are often forgotten. 25% active users, and that other 25% can be whatever ghosts in the system the OP is after.

My numbers are also butthole deriven.

[–] joelfromaus@aussie.zone 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

…interact with humans, even dumb humans…

Hi, it’s me, the dumb human.

[–] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago