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What the fuck are you saying?? (lemmy.wtf)

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[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 5 days ago (2 children)

There have been 0 unnecessary abortions performed on earth. There have been billions of unnecessary rapes. The world would be a better place if we had had more abortions and less rapes.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm sure that there have been abortions performed without the consent of the abortee (?) In that case, I would deem them unnecessary. (Although, a much stronger word is more appropriate.)

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Im not sure what term to use there either, I think the abortee might be the fetus. Aborter I'm guessing. Although if it was without consent then the aborter may be a staircase or a car crash?

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

Sometimes people will force their partner to get an abortion, because they don't want to have to deal with the kid. That's a quotidian example.

[–] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Thats a very subjective statement though. What is a "necessary" abortion? If you define any abortion that the woman wants as necessary, then sure, but there are other perspectives as well.

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If it was necessary for someone involved, it was necessary.

You have the same thought process that allows health insurance companies to decline paying for cancer treatments. If they are not involved, not the person or their doctor, why is "necessity" a thing they can make a judgement on? Is the person making that decision an oncologist? Did they provide an alternate treatment plan?

It's the person asking if the abortion is necessary the woman or their gynecologist? Obstetrician? Yoga instructor? Are they providing an alternate treatment plan?

[–] Free_Opinions 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If it was necessary for someone involved, it was necessary.

This reasoning can be used to justify a whole bunch of acts

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 days ago

Yeah, like most personal freedoms boil down to first party judgements being more valid than 3rd party.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago

So is the world being a better place. Some people think the world would be a better place if humanity wasn't here. Some don't. Some people like turtles, and those who don't like turtles are wrong.