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[โ€“] infinite_ass@leminal.space -2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What if it worked 90%? It doesn't need to be perfect, just better.

I'd like to see an experiment.

[โ€“] orcrist@lemm.ee 2 points 18 hours ago

Go look at YouTube, they are already doing it over there.

And it's horrible. Sometimes my comments are taken down automatically, but YouTube never tells me why, so I don't know what I need to change, and it's even hard to find out if my comments have been taken down. The fastest way is for me to write a comment and then wait 10 seconds and then try to edit it.

You're asking for something better but what's your baseline? What are you measuring? What's your metric? How would you know if it got better, and more importantly, how would we as a user base in general know if it got better?

[โ€“] frauddogg@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What if it worked 90%? It doesn't need to be perfect, just better.

An injustice against one of us is an injustice against all of us. 90% isn't good enough. Hell, 99% isn't good enough.

[โ€“] infinite_ass@leminal.space -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

But human moderators aren't perfect either. And they are often biased.

[โ€“] orcrist@lemm.ee 3 points 18 hours ago

Human moderators who tweak the AI settings are still biased. So you haven't solved any problem by throwing AI in the middleof it all.

[โ€“] frauddogg@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

But they can be checked and balanced by other moderators unless it's a one mod/one admin system; in which case then it's just a personal fief. Where's the checks and/or balances for theftbox moderation?

Y'know, if I had a physical watch, I'd be looking at my wrist really condescendingly right now.

[โ€“] infinite_ass@leminal.space 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

AIs can be checked too. And judged, tweaked, etc. Obviously

Groups of moderators can be just as biased as individual moderators. More so even. Given the amplifying effects of echo chambers.

[โ€“] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I sure as shit wouldn't. Did you even read any of what frauddogg just said? Genuine question because they explained pretty clearly why it is a terrible and stupid idea.

[โ€“] infinite_ass@leminal.space 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yes I read it. I just don't think it significates.

[โ€“] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

And this is something you should reexamine about yourself then if you don't understand the significance of racism and other bigoted biases in AI.

I am pretty much done arguing with you because you're a creep and a troll.

[โ€“] frauddogg@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

significates

Nice word-a-day calender, creepazoid

[โ€“] infinite_ass@leminal.space 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You don't even want to see an experiment? But that's the pudding.

[โ€“] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

I repeat. Did you actually read any of the concrete argument laid out before you or are you just being willfully obtuse.