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What you are doing, by taking that position, is just subscribing to the current social model. That's not even a criticism; it's joining the band wagon.
Let's say you have a big success tomorrow and you manage to amass a great fortune. Are you going to give it away? Are you going to do something with your newly found wealth to truly change something for better?
The top three wealth holders in the planet are there because people allowed it. Facebook was just so groudbreaking, so innovative, so useful to connect to people. Amazon is just so convenient, so easy to use. And electric cars never existed before.
They were enabled and still are by the same people that cry today against them. If the notion of true equality really existed, the moment those individuals started becoming too big, people would remove trust and start demanding them to do good, tangible good, for others.
Yes??? Of course I would?
Ohhhh, you're a capitalist
That's literally what myself and many others are doing? Except in my opinion they are evil until they intentionally drop their net worth to the single digit millions and transfer their companies to the workers who actually made them what they are today
Lmao, I'm an anarchist, not a liberal on a band wagon
I honestly hope so. Until that day, we do not know. Hopefully, you will set the example.
Shit. I am? Why?
I can't disagree on that.
It's easy to just shout out loud, when everyone else already is as well.
I personally like the anarchist proposal: a flat society, without classes. Unfortunately, at the moment, very far from being attainable.
This reads to me like you're assuming I'd be a class traitor until proven otherwise, and I don't like that.
Sorry, it sounded like you were defending billionaires as if they actually earned their wealth. I'm glad to be wrong, but you do continue to sound like a liberal
Why do you assume I didnt start until it became trendy? I quit Facebook and Amazon a decade ago, and have been consistently putting my freedom and safety on the line in furtherance of my leftist values for just as long
So you're not arguing that the upper class isn't evil, you were just under the assumption that I'm an all-talk idealist or something?
I'm gonna keep doing praxis anyway
I so deeply despise the use of "class" as if it as any meaning or use besides forcibly dividing people into societal boxes.
Until proven otherwise, you will strictly adhere to your principles and ideals. Like or not, is up to you. I don't exist to gain your unwavering approval.
Sorry, it sounded like you were defending billionaires as if they actually earned their wealth. I'm glad to be wrong, but you do continue to sound like a liberal
I risk we do not share the same understanding of what being liberal entails. I consider myself a liberal individual. But being politically liberal seems to be a charged connotation nowadays.
Quit FB I don't even remember when and I have a serious distrust towards Amazon.
I can't disagree that multi-million/billion/trillion fortunes should be dissipated and returned fully into the economic and social fabric. You still may be. I don't know you.
Even Marx was a man of his time: his daughters were educated to play the piano, draw and sing, like any middle class girl of the time. While at the same time, his work heavily criticized society and social norms has it stood.
It's a tall price to pay to truly embody an ideal.
Keep on that trail.
This is such a bizarre interaction
I agree.