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Democrats eye Harris 2028 presidential run as they devise political comeback (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 1 day ago by Powderhorn@beehaw.org to c/politics@beehaw.org

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Dear god, no. This is an abjectly terrible idea. Dems aren't going to win until they stop being the other party of billionaires who are centre-right at best yet claiming to be for the working man. Come on, learn something from this election. We want a Sanders or AOC, not this milquetoast rejection of the full scope of the Overton window.

This is going to be a crazy four years, and to suggest we come out on the other side wanting a return to the same bullshit that held wages and lifestyles back for, by then, 50 years, is a failure to read the room. No one wants what the Democratic party currently offers, and I don't see her suddenly becoming progressive. We don't need another president on the cusp of getting Social Security when elected.

We want that for ourselves after paying into the system for so long, but that's not going to happen. Find a new standard-bearer or die. Learn. Adapt. Run on real change, not the incremental shit that was resoundingly rejected and so generously provided us with the shitshow we're about to endure. Voters stay home when you do that, and here we are.

I mean, how many CEOs need to be killed before anyone gets the message that what they're offering has the current panache of liver and onions? Doesn't matter how well it's prepared; the world has moved on, and whoever gets the nomination in '28 needs to as well. Harris is not that candidate.

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[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 4 points 21 hours ago

Her pattern this campaign was the same as her pattern in the primary, start out as a mainstream progressive talking about changing the system and fighting Republicans, then after getting phone calls from donors and listening to establishment advisors abandon it all for overly restrictive benefit programs and empty words. Almost every time she said something good she'd walk it back over the next week.

This doesn't mean she should try again but finally buck her advisors and be her true self. Her deference to the sensibilities of rich donors is part of who she is.