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Dear god, no. This is an abjectly terrible idea. Dems aren't going to win until they stop being the other party of billionaires who are centre-right at best yet claiming to be for the working man. Come on, learn something from this election. We want a Sanders or AOC, not this milquetoast rejection of the full scope of the Overton window.

This is going to be a crazy four years, and to suggest we come out on the other side wanting a return to the same bullshit that held wages and lifestyles back for, by then, 50 years, is a failure to read the room. No one wants what the Democratic party currently offers, and I don't see her suddenly becoming progressive. We don't need another president on the cusp of getting Social Security when elected.

We want that for ourselves after paying into the system for so long, but that's not going to happen. Find a new standard-bearer or die. Learn. Adapt. Run on real change, not the incremental shit that was resoundingly rejected and so generously provided us with the shitshow we're about to endure. Voters stay home when you do that, and here we are.

I mean, how many CEOs need to be killed before anyone gets the message that what they're offering has the current panache of liver and onions? Doesn't matter how well it's prepared; the world has moved on, and whoever gets the nomination in '28 needs to as well. Harris is not that candidate.

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[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

OK, what's their platform? Because if you've seen one recently, I'm willing to drive to find it.

We need full-on systemic change, not just saying we'll be nicer than Trump. If we have an election in '28, that's not going to hold a lot of water. This is FDR shit time, not saying oligarchs should totally have the power they've amassed, and maybe I can get an extra $5.

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/08/2020-Democratic-Party-Platform.pdf

https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/FINAL-MASTER-PLATFORM.pdf

I don't know why your saying "okay what's their platform?" I'm criticizing Trump's shitty ones. If you legit didn't know, there were platform documents for the Democrats in both election cycles... there they are. Kamala's campaign itself did not really make much of a platform... It was mostly housing assistance IIRC.

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 1 points 2 hours ago

I was being hyperbolic. Of course they have a platform, they just never deliver anything. The GOP knows how to execute.