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I announce that his folk hero status has now been revoked.

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Just another jilted alt right dude who was fine when he thought the system was for him and then got burned and lashed out.

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[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

"We will sort womens/minority etc rights out when we've got class consiousness"

i think you completely hit the nail on the head here. it's a 20th century mindset (19th century even, lol) that just uncritically carries on the shortcomings of the old masters. non-dialectical! a communism, a Marxism for our time has to uphold queer liberation, feminism, racial justice, etc. as non-negotiable aspects. then again many western leftists (thankfully not too many on this website) still struggle with such basic aspects as anti-imperialism that have been hashed out pretty solidly for 100 years or so!

[–] Verenata@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Literally!!! Aaaaaa I had this out with someone else and like marx just forgot about women. Like they had some good ideas and formed the basis but that was a fucking century ago!!! We need to build in that and address areas they just failed in. E.g. women.

Calliban and the witch skeleton-guns-akimbo

Socialism in 2024 isn't socialism if it doesn't have intersectionality as the backbone of its ideals and people on here blates haven't internalised that.

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yeah even real ones like Lenin and Connolly seem so stunted when you hear them speak about women. I guess mostly men are still like that. Lenin to be fair was ahead of his time at least in an academic way wrt feminism. but still a 20th century guy ultimately. Stalin... not his finest area to say the least.

[–] Verenata@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

Aaaaaa preach, like Lenin and his views towards homosexuality as well and being a Rosa stan. It's that lack of lived experience imo, people can't internalise the concepts if they are a he/him because how the patriarchy relates to them and oppresses them is fundamentally different. I think people like Lenin are the example where the man DID listen and that says it all.