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[–] machiabelly@hexbear.net 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is going to further entrench the, concerningly common, idea that the right wing is currently more anti-establishment than the left.

[–] space_comrade@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I don't think he's an ideologically committed right winger tho, he just has a confused ideology because he's the perfect target demographic for the algorithm to serve right wing shit to. His twitter feed is pretty much what I'd expect from an average techbro college student.

[–] AnneVolin@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

he just has a confused ideology

There's is an entire ideology for techbros that exists as an outgrowth of Deluze/Guattari, Lyotard and Mark Fisher which often mixes with the Kazinsky/Linkola/Hardin set at the "green" edges. It's modern advocates are the Curtis Yarvin, Nick Land, and Hoppe. They literally name their magazines shit like Thermidor Magazine, their ideological views are based on similar history that Marxism is. In fact many of them have read Marx and agree with various observations historical, ideological, and sociological, but not the prescriptions.

It's not "confused", it simply has the following premises:

  1. History does not trend toward progress
  2. People are not are equal
  3. The over class (often based on some kind of "philosopher king" or "titan of industry" vague qualification, but at their most honest are often explicitly racist) deserve the "fire of Prometheus" (technology, capital, power) because only they can wield it responsibly.
  4. The under class do not deserve the "fire of Prometheus" because they cannot form a stable society (insert more racism/bullshit here)
  5. By accelerating the contradictions they see in society, they can force a cataclysm that consolidates and binds the underclass and reinvigorates the over class.

It's a messianic reskinning of capitalist boom and bust cycles. They aren't confused. They know what they're saying. They simply cannot close their eyes to the types of observations that they've heard from leftists that resonate with them, they simply decide on different causes and different rectifications.

You're not gonna fight this on "leftist" ground simply because some of them also hate healthcare. They'll agree with your arguments on healthcare and ignore you for the rest.

[–] 389aaa@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For the record, your posts on this subject are a breath of fresh air. It's so tiring seeing all the idiots on this website tripping over themselves to justifying their continued desire to lionize this guy.

~~Mostly all He/Hims too, but I doubt pointing that out would be taken very well. What a shocker that it's he/hims that have no issue with their favorite special 'heroic' twink of the day being a reactionary acclerationist.~~

[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

~~Mostly all He/Hims too, but I doubt pointing that out would be taken very well. What a shocker that it's he/hims that have no issue with their favorite special 'heroic' twink of the day being a reactionary acclerationist.~~

And probably all white; considering I haven't seen one em_poc poster actively rallying for him in the wake of the (alleged, bc I don't really know how much I believe Luigi == Robin Hoodie reporting just yet) information hitting the 24/7 news cycle.

[–] space_comrade@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I know this is a real ideological current but I don't think the average techbro dude that reposts Elon tweets knows anything about any of this.

[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It’s more of a symptom that the left does not exist in America, so that disenfranchised people turn to the populist right which then funnels away all the radical energy.

What has the left, if there exists such a movement, done to advance healthcare rights during a global pandemic over the last few years, an opportunity handed to them on a platter? The answer is none, if anything they completely folded to the establishment narrative. So there shouldn’t be any surprise why the left keeps losing ground in America.