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[Meta] Could we consider moving this community to another instance? (sopuli.xyz)
submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by Blaze@sopuli.xyz to c/football@lemmy.world
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Hello everyone,

There has been some discussions lately about the moderation of some LW communities (see !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com for details)

Which made me think that we currently don't have any active LW mod, the only remaining one being @UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev

So why would we not consider moving this community to another instance?

For people curious why moving the community to another instance would be beneficial:

  • LW has a 7-days delay with instances like aussie.zone (https://feddit.uk/post/18336398)
  • Having most of the instances on LW give a lot of power to the LW admins and mods, while spreading them out could be more ideal from a power distribution perspective
  • Previous communities have already migrated successfully, like !casualconversation@lemmy.world

Instances option

Alternatively, https://lemmy.zip/ is very well run

They regularly post very detailed updates on !home@lemmy.zip such as this one: https://lemmy.zip/post/27236300

They also offer very detailed information on those pages:

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[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

FYI, lemmy.cafe still has an issue with pictures, you can see it on https://lemmy.cafe/?dataType=Post&listingType=All&sort=TopDay

The admin is investigating, but no success for the last 10 days

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

okay. perhaps then

sopuli is good option, because europe centered just like football, and generally a well run instance

or perhaps lemm.ee has the advantage of being larger scale.

I’d vote for sopuli, but I see upsides to both.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There are reported issues with recent Lemmy versions. It's probably related to that. Probably not a reason to avoid an instance.

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lemmy.zip, lemmy.cafe and lemm.ee all run 0.19.7

You have the link above to lemmy.cafe not showing the thumbnails.

Lemmy.zip and lemm.ee are fine

So this is instance-specific, the admin acknowledged it when I brought it up

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I'm not across the Lemmy.cafe issues but they aren't the only one seeing thumbnails fail intermittently. Here's the issue on github where a fix has been made in Lemmy to help (but is not yet released): https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/5196

My point though is that an instance having an issue at a point in time isn't a reason to discount it. All instances have issues occasionally. It was only last month that Lemmy.ee was having inbound federation issues.

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago

but they aren’t the only one seeing thumbnails fail intermittently.

Indeed, but their case is quite worse, and I know this first hand because lemmy.cafe was my main instance for a few weeks, before I had to come back to this alt as the issue was preventing me from seeing most of the thumbnails. Sopuli is fine, and also running on 0.19.7.

My point though is that an instance having an issue at a point in time isn’t a reason to discount it.

Indeed

All instances have issues occasionally.

Yes, but the main difference is how long it takes them to resolve those. Programming.dev is a good example, if you look at !meta@programming.dev, you'll see a lot of posts from 2 months ago when the update to 0.19.5 corrupted their database, and now they have quite a few large of their communities that cannot be accessed from the community page.

The issue has been on-going for 2 months, with the single database admin expert getting support from other members, but still unable to fix it. If I were to migrate a tech community today, I might not consider programming.dev due to this reason.

We all know that everyone here is a volunteer, but you still want the instance you choose to be stable, and issues to be resolved "reasonably" quickly. That's why I'm always impressed with lemmy.zip reports, it shows a level of dedication to their instance that you don't always see elsewhere.