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I’ve listened to the Poor Proles Almanac and they’re basically left-unity (anarchist) preppers. Their information is probably useful either way, though. I just started listening to It Could Happen Here, and the first episode is pretty cringe. Robert Evans is anti-Assad and thinks a Syrian civil war type scenario could happen here. He praises maidan coup fascist protesters (without mentioning their fascism or US backing). And of course, he thinks a collapse could be soon in 2019 and a lot of crazy stuff has happened since, but no civil war. I’ll keep listening critically to see if he has anything decent to say, but not looking good. As the empire crumbles and climate change gets worse is a collapse scenario realistic?

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[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The thing I wonder about is what that would look like. Who would take control of the 4000ish nuclear weapons and the 800+ bases around the globe? It wouldn't really be good for anyone if the US military was decapitated, and split into various factions or whatever else might happen from that point on.

I really don't know how that can work in anyone's favor without a nuke or two being used somewhere.

[–] Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Bases will be destroyed, idk about bombs. The thing that must be done is mass scale cyber attack on USA's nuclear system and disable it, and then, ONLY THEN, the world won't be in danger anymore.

[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that would require coordination and timing... who can predict when the US will collapse with any amount of certainty?

i know nothing about how the nuclear arms are operated, but i would be aghast if it were remotely possible they could be disarmed via the internet

[–] relay@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 year ago

yes because that means that they could be launched via internet. Last I heard the system is airgapped using old technology and I hope that they did not do an upgrade to improve effeciency of launch to depreciate security of unauthorized launches.

[–] kd637_mi@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago

It's an interesting scenario. Would it lead to a withdrawal of forces back to the homeland to prosecute the war for either side? Or would it lead to petty warlordism both in and outside of the US?

Obviously I don't want the people of the US to suffer in a horrific civil war like has happened to so many countries the US has meddled in, and a destabilized US is probably more visibly dangerous than one that suffers a slow relative decline into multipolarity.