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Oooo oooo zeal and ardor mentioned holy shit. My bf showed me them and I'm into them more now lol. Erghhhdjekdmwmxmwmdkwkdw Come on Down and all three parts of Sacriligium are bangersssss but my fav is Built on Ashes omg it's so good.
Oh I fuckin LOVE THEM, shamefully it was a white homie of mine who put me onto them in the first place with the beckoning statement of "what do you think would've happened if escaped slaves turned to the antagonist of the slavemaster's religion, instead of the slavemaster's god?" and I been here ever since
For me, I think my faves are "Ship On Fire" and "Death to the Holy", but Come On Down is such an infectious track. Like, it makes me want to intone with a crowd, and it's rare metal gets me in that mood anymore
I think your homie and my bf read the same something because that's almost word for word what I got told lol.
Ship on fire is fire fr fr!! The bit where its goes "we gotta seven different letters in seven rows" but it's the second time and it does like a mini rise and drop/kicks back in (I dunno) at 1:23 kfdkwkdkwkdkw I wait all song for that bit.
I think I've grown to love it so much cos it comes on right after row row which has the sickest breakdown omfg.
Mmmm all the metal i like I've gotten mostly from him at the start of our friendship way before our relationship became a thing and like I know what I like so it really takes something special to make me listen to metal again and these guys kinda did it cos it was so new and fresh and not just angry cringe ass white dudes crying about the man and women while playing the saaaaame song again and again.
Real as fuck, ion't fuck with metal or its listeners like I used to anymore for fear of running face-first into Varg-adjacency(ironically, this is how JPEGMAFIA fell out of my top five) out of them and losing all my respect for the people who put me on to smth; so Zeal and Ardor was a refreshing change of pace for when I was put onto em
Saaaaammmeee my bf insists it's not all metal heads and I shouldn't tarnish everyone with the same brush which is absolutely fair and true but in terms of metal heads you meet at gigs and out and about its like never a normal person.
It's like there's always one form of bigotry if not multiple. I'm sure a lot of them think they inclusive but it's always "we don't care who or what you are" milquetoast shit and when that's coming from predominantly cis white straight men it's always feels like a smokescreen to hide the fact they'll have some vile ass take on one type of minority.
Thats how it always feels to me, even if your more qualified, more successful, more literate and more educated than a white male metal head, your always a little girl to them in a man's world that thinks she gets how it all works and it boils my brain I swear.
Aaaaa I'm venting lmao. Does any of that track from your experience?
Loads are lovely so obviously I don't wanna just slam metal fans since I'm technically one maybe I guess but like erghhhhh
Deadass, knowing the kind of bullshit white supremacist timing Burzum and everyone who wants to be Burzum was on, that kind of "we don't care who or what" always read as blatantly-untrue cope to me. Kinda like they want to distance themselves so bad from white supremacists, classical antisemites, and church-burners, but don't want to amend the mentalities and philosophies in white metal and its fandom that lead to white supremacy, classical antisemitism, and church burnings. It tracks 100% to me; I might be a metal fan but gods and antagonists know I will never share such fandom with an unvetted white
You say it so well!
Omg fucking whenever you mention Varg is a piece of shit, they always like a trained parrot go "varg just wants to be left alone"
WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?!
It means "Varg is tired of both himself and his fandom being reminded that he's a racist piece of shit and they probably are too if they associate with him"
Lmao dimebag Darrell and varg fans
Ignoring who made the music they listen to.
Can you speak on the jpegmafia thing a bit? I like his music but don't really follow him as a person.
Aight so early on in his career, man kinda built his image off behind like. I'd call it a radical aesthetic if not for his recent heel turn, cause now all that just feels like it was marketing edge-- but he had tapes titled shit like "communist slow jams" (look up "Devon Hendryx" on youtube for those old projects) and shit like that, has had some based discussions with Talib Kweli before-- but there's this song of his, ALL CAPS NO SPACES, where this is one of the verses
ALL CAPS NO SPACES lyrics (CW: gendered slurs)
Makes this whole big noise about being anti-Pantera, anti-Burzum, especially anti-Varg, right? Well, couple months ago, JPEGMAFIA turns up in a picture next to Kanye West, who is wearing a Burzum shirt in that photo; presumably tryna get a production credit on Kanye's upcoming album at the time (which iirc, he got). When pressed on how this doesn't line up with the beliefs he's espoused before, he replied to the tune of "fuck all the bullshit, I just wanna get paid". Which, I'm not gonna begrudge a producer getting their chips... But you can't talk all that radical shit you spat and then let yourself be photographed next to the single most regressive Uncle Tom in rap wearing merch of an act you claim to want to crack the skulls of.
Peggy likes wrestling a lot; well, the motherfucker's all kayfabe to me after that. He tried to justify it by "kanye been his hero all his life" or smth like that and I'm here like 'yeah, he was mine too-- emphasis on WAS, once he started demonstrating how stuck in the Sunken Place he is, that was it for him!'
Damn yeah that's a bummer, I can't in good conscience put money in Kanye's pockets anymore, might have to do the same for Peggy. Thanks for the response, appreciate everything you said in this thread!