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[–] reddwarf@feddit.nl -3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Russia is the aggressor and the US stands with Ukraine and helps them.

China pretends to be ‘neutral’ in a war so glaringly having a country violate the sovereignty of Ukraine but then secretly support the aggressor.

What is so difficult to understand? Or do you purposefully try to muddy the waters by invoking “whatabout…?” and see if the countries supporting Ukraine could be slandered?

This war could not be more clear in who is the aggressor and who try to help the violated. The fact you feel the need to point in all directions and try to steer attention away from where we should be paying attention to is in itself a despicable act, only the logical conclusion I am left with is that you somehow feel aligned with russia and it’s war path against others. You created a moral outrage where other should feel bad but the only thing you have truly done is put a stain on your character. Pathetic and shameful to be basically rooting for russia at this point.

[–] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

US is a murderous invader that has invaded Iraq, Afganistan in my lifetime and continues to bomb many places on earth.

Who will support victims of American agression?

[–] Syringe@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

You're not wrong...

This is just more whataboutism.

[–] psilocybin@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This war could not be more clear in who is the aggressor

Ofc it could be clearer. For example: The US invasion of Iraq was a an actually unprovoked invasion

You're just late at learning about a border conflict at a time of horrible escalation and don't have anything but imperialist propagandaof a meddling party to draw conclusions from.

And no I don't have the emotional energy to spare to discuss it here I just want to signal much needed dissent to people stumbling over this thread

[–] reddwarf@feddit.nl -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You prohibiting current actions because of . This attitude might seem nobel or informed but whatabout is your true argument and it gets you nowhere.

The fact you sow doubt on the invasion of Ukraine as ‘perhaps russia had a point to start killing civilians’ is despicable and tells me you are a russian puppet or bad faith actor, just to muddy the waters.

Imagine being against unjust invasions (and there is a point to be made for that) but when clear and present danger presents itself you use unjust invasions to justify the war of aggression perpetuated by russia. The irony probably slips right by you. Well, it would if your mindset is to ‘level’ all events as ‘the same’. Pathetic and dubious at best.

[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

That's a lot of talking for someone who wants to use clusterbombs...

[–] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This war could not be more clear in who is the aggressor and who try to help the violated.

US/NATO is the aggressor. Russia has liberated the people undergoing ethnic cleansing by Ukraine's Nazis. Educate yourself. Grow up and get your head out of American propaganda.

[–] reddwarf@feddit.nl -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look here, another russian troll wanting to make fascist russia the good guy. The only good thing about russia is nothing, there is no good thing. A country of criminals and thugs. It will take a generation to repair the horror and criminal behaviour of that vile country.

Criminals, all of them. May russia collapse and turn to oblivion, we do not need that patch or moronic criminals in this world.

[–] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm Irish and not a troll. Where are you from?

Russia doesn't meet the definition of fascism, Ukraine does.

A country of criminals and thugs.

Now just racism.

[–] reddwarf@feddit.nl -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Look here, a troll pretending to be Irish. No shame, you have no shame. Defending the fascists from russia. What a pathetic little troll you are.

[–] kd637_mi@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If this is the same blursty as on Reddit he was pretty active in one of the Ireland subs for a fair while. People will have different opinions to you occasionally

[–] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Why would you think I'd pretend to be Irish? We're not big fans of imperialists.

You're a racist bigot however. I'd rather be though of as a troll than be like you.