The Earth only can survive with Humans with Humanity, it's not only the rich, it's ignorance, stupidity, fanatism and greed the problem. It's all the stupid people which vote for those which give power to the rich (MAGA rednecks, fascists, flat earther, anti-vax, influencers "Climate change is a Hoax", buyed media fom these people with fake news, etc.).

The bottom line is not that someone is rich, but what he do with the wealth and how he earned it..

[–] robinn_@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Voting for Democrats is also voting for those that give power to the rich. But this must be looked at in the larger context of the U.S. political system, which shows that it’s not a problem of voters but of the essence of the state itself.

All of the issues in your analysis were explained over a century ago: https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes US is different, because it isn't a real Democracy, with 2 Partys, one conservative neoliberal and other extreme right wing christo-fascists.

[–] robinn_@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago

It's all the stupid people which vote for those which give power to the rich (MAGA rednecks

Clearly you weren’t talking ab the U.S. or implying the legitimacy of U.S. democracy.

[–] JayDee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Society developed the tools to manipulate humans based on common errs we make, and so of course the logical end-point is the continued control of those already in power. We've also deprived the vast majority of people from the tools for counteracting common mistakes, behind paywalls, time theft, and esoteric elitist language. By this, we've kept the means of inoculating ourselves against control out of reach.

The rich directly define how this world by who they lobby, what charities they fund or deprive, and what they make their news outlets pedal. They are the reason for ignorance, stupidity, and fanaticism.

First we must educate others in order to inoculate them. Then we must organize to wrench our power back to ourselves and away from the elite.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 2 points 23 hours ago

It is clear that in a cultured and informed people these policies cannot subsist, which is why they do everything in their power, helped for centuries by the church and today by related information media, study plans, etc. to keep the people ignorant, obedient and submissive. But this only shows that it cannot be solved with "eat the rich", this would be simplifying this too much, it is this whole system that puts people in a spiral that is already very difficult to undo, until a bad awakening occurs, but then it's late.