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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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Silicon Valley’s Quest to Build God and Control Humanity (www.thenation.com)
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The world we have is ugly enough, but tech capitalists desire an even uglier one. The logical conclusion of having a society run by tech capitalists interested in elite rule, eugenics, and social control is ecological ruin and a world dominated by surveillance and apartheid. A world where our technological prowess is finely tuned to advance the exploitation, repression, segregation, and even extermination of people in service of some strict hierarchy.

If you're posting here, you're probably familiar with most of the stuff in this article already, but it's nice to see criticism in this vein coming from more mainstream sources.

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[–] self@awful.systems 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you need to read better sci-fi

[–] BadAdvice@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No. Humanity needs to create better sci fi. Then, we can work on taking the fi out. Kind of the whole point.

[–] self@awful.systems 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ok

your vision of the future is trite as fuck and structured so you can ignore the capitalism-shaped elephant in the room while pretending it isn’t a problem; that there’s any possible future under capitalism where the goal isn’t to enrich the very few humans in charge

you desperately need ideas that aren’t from video games, Asimov, or venture capital assholes plagiarizing video games and Asimov and claiming that nah, this time it’s for real! we can have neurolinks and machine intelligences and all you have to do is become an intellectually incurious neofeudalist! it’ll be such a cozy future too, because you got there by yielding all decision-making to a tiny pool of rich incompetent fucks and didn’t have to challenge any of your own broke-ass values in the process

trite as fuck. off with that

[–] BadAdvice@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can't have robot overlords without the capitalist hellscape in which they are forged. We could probably pull it off with a lot less harm to the environment or whatever, but we didn't. It was cheaper to fuck everything up instead of doing difficult things like waste management or environmental impact studies, so we've just done that since forever up to and including the present day. I think the ancients had it right. Don't fear God, don't fear death, what is good is easy to get, and what is terrible is easy to endure. Either we figure out the machine gods or the planet kills us first and the next meat bags get a chance.

[–] self@awful.systems 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You can’t have robot overlords without the capitalist hellscape in which they are forged

neither please

I think the ancients had it right. Don’t fear God, don’t fear death, what is good is easy to get, and what is terrible is easy to endure.

none of this either, thanks

it’s very hard to talk to someone who’s too busy cosplaying as a flesh automaton animated by neurotransmitters

[–] BadAdvice@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Don't knock robot overlords till you try them. I once had a supervisor replaced with an excel script and it was the best boss I'd ever had.