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[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 26 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It’s gonna suck so hard for the whole world when they get invaded :(

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 23 points 4 days ago

Pray they don't, but I'm almost certain they will now that the US is appointing complete morons to every portion of the US government. The US won't really be able to help until this rot gets cleaned out. China has four years before we can really help Taiwan again. (Or at least give them air superiority)

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Biden just finalized the Arizona TSMC plant.

If that gets invaded, I think semiconductors are the least of our problems.

[–] chutchatut@lemm.ee 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But the Arizona plant wouldn't be allowed to manufacture the most cutting edge chips.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

How/why is that blocked?

Would it still be if China invades Taiwan?

[–] dabaldeagul@feddit.nl 17 points 4 days ago

Taiwan is incentivized to keep the latest and greatest local, so they can hopefully get protection from the USA and Europe

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Taiwans rule. Foreign tsmc fabs have to be a gen behind. This would definitely change if China took over Taiwan, but who knows what China will do or allow at that point. They could shut the whole US fab down if they want. Even if they did try to re-tool the US fab (taiwan or china or tsmc) in a few years, it would cost billions and a lot of time to get it done.

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

you also have to keep in mind, the client that purchases cutting edge nodes first is apple. AMD only currently uses it for Zen 5c, and Qualcomm uses it for snapdragon elite/8 gen 4. mobile usally always gets them for efficiency reasons(and better yields due to smaller dies). other markets have historically been a node behind already (e.g despite the 9800x3d being new, its only a N4 die with a N6 io die)