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[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (37 children)

OK to start us off how about some Simulation Hypothesis crankery I found posted on ActivityPub: Do we live in a computer simulation? (Article), The second law of infodynamics and its implications for the simulated universe hypothesis (PDF)

Someone who's actually good at physics could do a better job of sneering at this than me, but I mean but look at this:

My law can confirm how genetic information behaves. But it also indicates that genetic mutations are at the most fundamental level not just random events, as Darwin’s theory suggests.

A super complex universe like ours, if it were a simulation, would require a built-in data optimisation and compression in order to reduce the computational power and the data storage requirements to run the simulation.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

General sneer against the SH: I choose to dismiss it entirely for the same reason that I dismiss solipsism or brain-in-a-vat-ism: it’s a non-starter. Either it’s false and we’ve gotta come up with better ideas for all this shit we’re in, or it’s true and nothing is real, so why bother with philosophical or metaphysical inquiry?

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The SH is catnip to "scientific types" who don't recognize it as a rebrand of classical metaphysics. After all, they know how computers work, and it can't be that hard to simulate the entire workings of a universe down to the quark level, can it? So surely someone just a bit smarter than themselves have already done it and are running a simulation with them in it. It's basically elementary!

[–] bunchberry@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

If you think about it, a slice of pizza is basically a computer that simulates a slice of pizza down the quark level.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 11 points 1 week ago

Ha very clever, but as quantum level effects only occur when somebody is looking at it, they dont have to simulate it at quark level all the time. I watched what the bleep do we know, im very smart.

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're missing the most obvious implication, though. If it's all simulated or there's a Cartesian demon afflicting me then none of you have any moral weight. Even more importantly if we assume that the SH is true then it means I'm smarter than you because I thought of it first (neener neener).

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

But this quickly runs into the 'don't create your own unbreakable crypto system' problem. There are people out there who are a lot smarter who quickly can point out the holes in these simulation arguments. (The smartest of whom go 'nah, that is dumb' sadly I'm not that enlightened, as I have argued a few times here before how this is all amateur theology, and has nothing to do with STEM/computer science (E: my gripes are mostly with the 'ancestor simulation' theory however)).

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The "simulation hypothesis" is an ego flex for men who want God to look like them.

Since the Middle ages we've reduced God's divine realm from the glorious kingdom of heaven to an office chair in front of a computer screen, rather than an office chair behind it.

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