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US Muslim leaders who supported Republican Donald Trump to protest against the Biden administration’s support for Israel’s war on Gaza and attacks on Lebanon have been deeply disappointed by his cabinet picks, they tell Reuters.

“Trump won because of us and we’re not happy with his Secretary of State pick and others,” says Rabiul Chowdhury, a Philadelphia investor who chaired the Abandon Harris campaign in Pennsylvania and co-founded Muslims for Trump. Muslim support for Trump helped him win Michigan and may have factored into other swing state wins, strategists believe.

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[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Voters are responsible for their choices. Not political parties.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Hear hear! I mean, how dare they not vote for the democrats? Don't they know how this works? Do they think the parties are supposed to "earn" their votes by campaigning for policies that will benefit the electorate? That's fucking childish!

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

They did have policies that benefitted the electorate. Lots of them. But I guess when people can't look at anything but one single issue, and looking poorly I might add, considering that trump was known to be worse by far, it doesn't matter. But hey, keep blaming anyone but the people responsible for casting their votes. I'm sure it will fix the mess they created by voting with their feelings instead of their reason.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The part of the electorate that benefits from fracking, an even bigger border wall, children in cages at the border, and genocide is not big enough to move the needle. Plus, anyone who looks at those issues and considers them important is much more likely to vote for Trump anyway. Her platform was regressive dog shit, and that's why people didn't vote for her (and the genocide of course).

You can continue with the strategy of blaming the voters, but look where that got you. Just from a completely pragmatic perspective, look where that got you. The past three cycles you keep running candidates no one's excited about, on essentially republican platforms, with the main selling point being that they're not Trump (which is a veiled threat, at best). You managed to beat Trump only two out of the three times, and you had a massive pandemic helping you with the one time you did beat him with this strategy.

Eh, you know what, maybe you're right. Let's run on an even more right wing platform four years from now (maybe we can be anti-trans or whatever to attract more moderate republicans, like the 0% we managed to attract this cycle), let's tell the voters they're awful people if they vote for the other side, and maybe this time it'll work

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

You talk like I have any say on who gets to run. I don't like Harris' platform. I know it's centrist garbage. But you know what's worse? EVERYTHING that Trump is doing and planning. It doesn't take much to see that. And when you only have 2 shit choices, going with the less shit option is preferable. So yes, it's the fault of voters that we have trump. It's the DNCs fault Harris was their top pick and that the primaries were a joke. But in the end it's voters that pick and they decided between the living embodiment of "meh" and an orange cunt with muktiple felonies and a nasty track record of fucking over everything in his path, And the voters picked the orange cunt. The parties don't vote. People do. And people were narcissistic twats that went off "the general vibe of things" instead of using any reasoning whatsoever. Try to scapegoat this shit all you want, but people are responsible for their choices.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

They thought they needed to also earn the majority which supports Israel as well which makes it awful hard to tell the truth and win everyones votes