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Yeah, both sides amiright?

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[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 12 points 6 days ago (4 children)

The problem is not military restrictions. Biden did not have any either. The problem is recognition of annexed territories. We see how Israel is clearing out the northern part of Gaza and they are already talking about annexing the West Bank. We are likely to see a lot more violence in the West Bank soon. My guess is parts of Jerusalem and Jericho being in focus.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Trump will enable any genocide the Israelis commit, and loudly gloat over it.

But yeah, both sides are the same...

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

As opposed to enabling any genocide the Israelis commit and unconvincingly pretending to wag his finger at them, like Biden is still doing.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

You have correctly identified the relevant difference: rhetorical approach.

Biden-Harris: feigned concern and "ceasefire" claims while providing unconditional support for the genocide.

Trump: no feigned concern or "ceasefire" claims while (presumably) providing unconditional support for the genocide.

But this difference means nothing materially, of course. If someone punches you with a smile on their face do you thank them for it?

[–] freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Did you know the Democrats are the first party to have a Palestinian-American woman elected as a member of Congress? Her name is Rashida Tlaib, and Israel has banned her from entering their country, and Marjory Taylor PieceofShit attempted to pass a resolution censuring her for her criticism of Israel.

Hm, I wonder if any of the "anti-genocide" assholes ever stopped to think about Rashida, and whether she would have wanted Democrats to sit out this election or vote Green. I wonder if they understand anything at all.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 days ago

Tlaib has generally been the sole voice against US support for Israel in Congress and very publicly refused to endorse Harris days before the election.

She got nearly twice the support in her district as Harris did.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago

Hm, I wonder if any of the “anti-genocide” assholes ever stopped to think about Rashida, and whether she would have wanted Democrats to sit out this election or vote Green.

When you definitely know Tlaib's positions lmao

Incredibly chauvinistic to use her as a talking point and put your own positions into her mouth without listening to anything she says.

[–] Landsharkgun@midwest.social 2 points 6 days ago

She publically refused to endorse Harris days before the election. Are you ignorant or deliberately spreading misinformation?

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The problem is recognition of annexed territories.

Don't look too hard at Harris's pick for VP if this is the pretext for "we're not as bad" that you're clinging to

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

Yeah didn't he call for the creation of "greater israel" in the region or something?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Yes. Now make sure you stand in front of a mirror once a day and say that out loud so you actually start to believe it.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 days ago

To pretend that Biden did not deliver weapons to Israel used for a genocide, but Trump will make it even worse? I just need to read the news for that. No need for a mirror.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The Biden-Harris regime has provided, unconditionally, the material snd diplomatic support needed for Israel to carry out this genocide. If you support them, you are complicit.

Who should look in the mirror?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

If you support them, you are complicit.

He knows and revels in it.