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[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

While the plan you've outlined in your argument my feel good, it isn't particularly useful for shifting the Democrats to the left. Under this plan, the causalities of this and future Republican administrations will be the cost of doing business.

Consider leveraging power by voting for Democrats in elections to benefit the people who will otherwise be harmed by future Republican administrations. edit: typo

[–] Brodysseus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I live in a really liberal state. So my vote doesn't actually matter.

I'll consider it, and I appreciate the kind response, but to be honest I think if people keep placating them with "lesser of two evils votes" nothing will change.

Hopefully the party can draw conclusions about the 10m people who sat this one out vs 2020, and figure out why.

Edit: do you have an article or transcript for the link? I'm not a video person I prefer to read

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Votes in high population states count less than votes in low population states, because of the electoral college, but they still count.

This isn't about placating the Democrats. It's about not using minorities as currency for a moral victory over the Democrats. The moral victory may feel good, but it isn't useful. A moral victory will not prevent key tipping points in the Earth's ecosystem that will cause catastrophic damage to the environment. Nor will it protect minorities from the fascists who want to kill them.

Hopefully the 10 million people will learn to leverage power by voting for the Democrats in elections even if they don't get anything out of it. Because we all have something to lose by Republicans taking power in the short term. Even if we won't all feel it until the long term.

The Democratic Party does need a populist narrative to appeal to a broader base, but the Democrats are unlikely to listen. The party needs to be hijacked the way Trump hijacked the Republican Party and the way Bernie tried to hijack the Democratic Party. Part of doing that is delaying fascism so that there are still elections and people to run against fascists. edit: typo

Edit: do you have an article or transcript for the link? I’m not a video person I prefer to read

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