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[–] LengAwaits@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I'm not the person you're replying to, but if you aren't familiar, Nick Fuentes believes (in his own words) the following:

“We need to eradicate Jewish stranglehold over the United States of America. … We will win, because unlike our opposition, we are willing to die for what we believe in … We’re in a holy war and I will tell you this. Because we’re willing to die in the holy war, we will make them die in the holy war. And they will go down.”

This isn't <a group of people I don't like> this is <a group of people who support the rape, murder, and genocide of people they don't like>. Nick Fuentes is a literal crypto-fascist. Fascists are owed zero tolerance, and the use of hyperbole to shock or scare them (or scare others away from falling in with them) is a valid tactic.

Oi Polloi - Bash The Fash

[–] PhobosAnomaly 1 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Thanks for your reply, I appreciate your insight.

We still disagree, but I genuinely appreciate the additional context you have to offer. I'm not wholly altruistic, I think Fuentes is a massive piece of human garbage.

But, he is human - and with that, is his right to human rights.

I don't like him as much as the next person and that is an entirely subjective opinion, but levelling the same kind of hatred and lack of compassion effectively makes you no better than fanny balls Fuentes is. It's a dangerously small leap from <I don't like what this person stands for> and therefore sanctioning sexual assault, to <they don't like what I stand for> and therefore sanctioning sexual assault.

I suspect we're on the same broad page, but our means are vastly different.

[–] nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What are your thoughts on the paradox of tolerance? At what point do you personally draw the line of not tolerating the intolerant?

[–] PhobosAnomaly 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A great question. I was going to call it a "thought experiment", but as Wikipedia more succinctly calls it, a "philosophical concept". I'm wary of jumping to the paradox of tolerance as a device to handwave away violence against anyone.

It's an important point to consider and it raises vital questions that challenges my own argument, but ultimately the rights of the human override any philosophical ideals.

In this instance, I would much rather preserve the rights of any person - arsehole or not - rather than subject them to sexual violence because of a perceived difference in political opinion.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

I'm wary of jumping to the paradox of tolerance as a device to handwave away violence against anyone.

Good thing that's not what it does, then

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