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[–] jaxiiruff@lemmy.zip 119 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Big tech needs to be stopped yesterday. This literally has china great firewall energy and I hate it.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

My brother in Lemmy, this is what stopping Big Tech looks like.

Europe made laws that say that Google and others need to pay if they want to link to EU publishers. Well, maybe the price they are asking is not worth it.

You're right about the firewall energy, but that's simply how these laws work. The point of copyright, as well as age verification and other such laws, is to control who may access certain information.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 25 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Big tech needs to be stopped yesterday. This literally has china great firewall energy and I hate it.

This is one of the rare occasions I'm siding with Google. The news outlets are claiming that they should be paid money for those result snippets. It's not because I'm caring for Google so much but because that stance hurts small search engines.

[–] cbarrick@lemmy.world 21 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

EU: You have to pay to show our news.

Google: Ok. We won't show your news.

EU: Pikachu face

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 17 points 21 hours ago

That's what basically happened in Germany like 10, 15 years ago when the first publisher had that idea. Its news stories would still show up in search results but only the headline, not that text snippet and no thumbnail image. These results were less attractive to users, so traffic from Google to those web sites crashed down by like 80, 90 percent.

In the end the publishers gave Google a free license to reproduce text snippets and thumbnails. The tightened copyright law provision wasn't repealed. Small search engines without leverage still (AFAIK to this day) have to pay.

So Google pays nothing, publishers earn nothing, upstart search engines can't afford the fees, and so Google leaves even more in power because of a law not even they wanted.

[–] Lennny@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

Not wanting to appear on Google is how we're going to get EVEN more dailymail type shit.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

Europe asked Google to do this so they can monitor what kind of influence Google has.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean, they've done this when places charge them money to index the news articles there.

It hardly seems reasonable to both mandate that they index a given piece of news media and that they pay a fee to do so.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 23 hours ago

A US news echo chamber at the whims of whatever they think will appease trump is going to be horrifying...