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The only thing I like about Trump is exactly what so many empire managers hate about him: he gives the game away. He says the quiet parts out loud. He's the only president who'll openly boast that US troops are in Syria taking the oil or lament that they failed to take the oil from Venezuela, or just come right out and tell everyone he's bought and owned by Zionist oligarchs.

Trump is the opposite of Obama, who was very skillful at putting a pretty face on the evil empire. Trump puts a very ugly face on a very ugly thing. He is a much more honest face to have on the empire. A crude, stupid plutocrat who is owned by other plutocrats is the perfect representative of that tyrannical power structure.

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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You already lost the argument about fascist when you invaded with troops named after Hitler.

Putin has been in power for 24 years!

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Putin has been in power for 24 years!

Zionist Supremacists and all oligarchy that allies with them for their seat at the trough, have been in control over US for 75 years. Russia's military production complex is largely owned by Russia and doesn't have to operate at a profit. In US, they own you, and don't have to produce working equipment to take all of your money.

The core definition of naziism includes anti-communist/soviet ideology that for Ukraine has morphed into anti-ethnic Russian ideology. I'm sure there is a Russia that owns Hitler's favorite breed of dog as well, and you should use that to totally be convincing in your trolling.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

anti-communist/soviet

There is no communism in Russia today. Industry is owned by private individuals.

Zionists? Because Nazis are famous for supporting Jews?

In US, they own you, and don't have to produce working equipment to take all of your money.

Why are there so many Russian billionaires?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_oligarchs

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/07/31/russian-billionaires-supply-kremlins-army-military-industrial-complex-proekt-a82013

None of the Russian Millionaires and Billionaires actually produced their wealth. They got it from extracting the surplus value of the workers in their companies. Russia is capitalist and has been since 1991.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Much of them from CIA puppet Yeltsin regime. Yes, Putin allowed most of the rich to stay rich. But this war is not a giveaway to Russian oligarchs the way it is in the US.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Putin didn't just allow them to stay rich. He made them rich.

https://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/moscow/deripaska.html#:~:text=Oleg%20Deripaska%2C%20born%20in%201968%2C%20is,Russia%27s%20youngest%20billionaire%20at%20age%2035.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavel_Durov

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gennady_Timchenko "In 1991, Putin gave Timchenko an oil export license.[2] Timchenko then founded Gunvor, which has now exported billions of dollars-worth of Russian oil."

Why is Yeltsin a CIA puppet and not also Putin? Putin has given the US everything they wanted. Russia's military and youth have been diminished. Former Russian friendly / Neutral countries have joined NATO. Russian natural resources have been internationally sanctioned giving a business advantage to the US. Putin works for America.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Deripaska may have had corrupt aid from CIA puppet Yeltsin. He is married to his daughter. Telegram guy didn't make his money from Russia government. Timchenko also got rich under Gorbachoev/Yeltsin. Link connecting him to Putin was "receiving an oil export license". Before Putin got into leadership.

Why is Yeltsin a CIA puppet and not also Putin? Putin has given the US everything they wanted.

Yeltsin (and Gorbo) gave away most of the "sweet privatization" to west. Movies from the period treat Russia as joining humanity. Western media has invoked Putin Derangement Syndrome on the sheeple ever since, largely due to his anti corruption efforts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Russia

Russia’s military and youth have been diminished. Former Russian friendly / Neutral countries have joined NATO. Russian natural resources have been internationally sanctioned giving a business advantage to the US. Putin works for America.

Since the war, Russia has passed Germany and Japan to be 4th largest economy. Any Russian who is not a demented former Yeltsin puppet understands that NATO is not a defensive alliance, and Ukraine's war provocation is an existential threat to Russia that must be defeated. The gains made by Biden over EU colonies was absolutely spectacular for the US, but new admin threatens their commitment to subservience. Narrative that Russia is winning seems closer to reality.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You can't blame new billionaires on Yeltsin when Putin has been in power over 2x longer than Yeltsin.

Any Russian who is not a demented former Yeltsin puppet understands that NATO is not a defensive alliance,

Yet Putin gave America everything they wanted- an expanded NATO from countries that were formerly neutral.

As to Russia surpassing Germany and Japan, that's not supported by any data:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

PPP GDP is where Russia went to 4th.

Old billionaires on your list got their wealth during Yeltsin. Derepaska close ties to Yeltsin. The success of Telegram is not due to favours granted by Russian government.

an expanded NATO from countries that were formerly neutral.

CIA brainwashing monopoly over EU politicians and media is not Putin's goal. CIA is independently more powerful than Russia, and how they provoked the war despite Putin's peace preference.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I listed an old Billionaire who directly owes his money to Putin. I listed a new billionaire that you claim shouldn't exist because only in America do people work for capitalist overlords. Kirill Shamalov wasn't made a Billionaire by Yeltsin.

Putin's goal is the destruction of Russia. Germany needs Lebensraum. They couldn't invade Russia like 1941 so instead they got their puppet Putin to get Slavs to kill themselves. Russian Slavs kill Ukrainian Slavs and in 10 years German investors will buy up cheap land in Russia without a single German casualty. The US supports it because they get more NATO allies. China gets cheap oil and no competition from Russia because Russia is building artillery instead of electric cars. Putin gets to keep his Billions. ( How did a politician with an average salary of $110,000 us dollars get $200 Billion?) In return, Putin's children get to inherit hundreds of millions of dollars and live in complete safety.

What do you get out of it? A chance to die killing Slavs so that Putin can secure his $200 B for his children?