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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/22332949

JD Vance said that ‘American power comes with certain strings attached’

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[–] Blackmist 26 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I'd be amazed if he does any of it tbh. Last time he just spent most of it playing golf, and sticking his goofy-ass signature on anything they stick in front of him.

The last thing they want to do is actually deal with the boogeyman issues. If they did that they'll have nothing to campaign on next time.

Most of this will be spent lining their own pockets.

[–] kobra@lemm.ee 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is such an optimistic take. I am very concerned they will spend the next 4 years making sure whatever election we have next is more similar to a Russian “election”.

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Why wouldn't they try? They've done everything they could so far and face no repercussions, why not go ahead and try to be king? A few people will fret and tut-tut but if nobody is going to do anything it doesn't amount to much.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, Trump specifically may not try because the risk/reward isn't really good for him.

As it stands, he gets to declare an unambiguous "victory" where he won at life. He got to be president with ultimately a clean sweep of the swing states and the popular vote and served as many terms as he is allowed to serve. Thanks to the rules, he doesn't need to compete again, and he can stop even pretending to work after 4 years.

Meanwhile, a push to establish him as "dictator for life" might at best buy him another few years in office before his health will fail. Such an effort comes with high risk, of him going down in history as more of a "bad man", of personal risk for being targeted by violence.

Now JD Vance might be game to make a go of it, he's got decades left in the tank. Of course broadly speaking there's a balance of power, with those currently in power relatively comfortable knowing that the vote serves as a nice way to get pushed out of office before people get pissed enough to put you in real physical danger. Plenty of opportunities to be self-serving with a pretty safe retirement should things start going awry. Fanaticism can drive people to go further, but I would like to think a pragmatic person with a sense of self-interest can see the value in a peaceful voting out versus having those same millions of people losing their political voice.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago

This shit is so naive.

[–] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago

The fact that he'll spend all his time playing golf or whatever will leave ample room for all his appointees to actually govern. It's not Trump we should be worried about.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago

This is so naive. They literally told us exactly what they will do, and it literally has "2025" in the title. We need to listen to them when they tell us what they are going to do.