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I read a Reddit (through RDX mind you) post the other day that included the Who we serve page from the democrats' website. The user noted that men were not on that list and pointed it out as on of the reasons Kamala Harris had lost. Meaning the Democratic Party should pander to the white young men demographic as well. A link to the post (through RDX)

I keep seeing this sentiment over and over again on social media. And I can't help but make the analogy to the "All lives matter." as opposed to "Black Lives matter." Am I wrong to think this? I am not from the United States. Please don't bite my head off as this is no stupid questions.

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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I was excited when Harris first announced and started calling out Trump on his bullshit. Then she was non-committal in actually withholding arms from Israel due to their constantly violating the conditions of being sent those weapons. Then she said that burning a flag was unAmerican or something close enough. Then it went to the step of trying to appeal to Republican voters instead of trying to motivate undecided and apathetic voters, who are the people that helped Obama win with his campaign of hope and change.

I can completely understand someone who has given up because the Dems are just slow walking the decline, not actually improving anything. It is so fucking demoralizing that the Dems can't learn anything.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

who are the people that helped Obama win with his campaign of hope and change.

They became the establishment that helped Hillary lose to Trump.

Obama had a winning message and he failed to follow through on a lot of it. It was about hope and more importantly CHANGE.

The change never came, and the candidates that came after never promised hope OR change. People stopped believing Democrats were offering either hope or change. Because they weren't, they were offering "don't rock the boat, it might upset the rich."

I mean, even Obama offered up RomneyCare instead of something more progressive. People got wise to that over time. It made them feel defeated.

Trump offered change, it's that simple. Most in this country are sadly too uneducated to really realize what his type of change means.

Democrats were too busy worrying about whether they could actually implement policy, so they tried to only make promises they could keep, and with Republicans obstructing everything they did, they stopped making real, useful promises to the electorate.

People loved Sanders whether he could make his agenda happen or not, case in point. Nobody likes a policy wonk telling them "no, wait longer."

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Obama had a winning message and he failed to follow through on a lot of it. It was about hope and more importantly CHANGE.

Dems failed spectacularly by not getting rid of the filibuster when their supermajority had a couple dissenters. If they had actually followed through instead of letting Republicans obstruct when they had two houses and the oval office they could have shown that change and kept the momentum going. Well, if they actually sold their success, which they are also terrible at.

Instead they held onto their safety blanket that the Republicans neutered to stack the courts, and will absolutely throw out if they get the House too so they can pass all the terrible laws they want.

Dems screwed themselves.

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 2 points 2 weeks ago

Obama in his book says similar things about the filibuster. It's his major regret, not ending it when he had the chance so that he could've done more.