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I apologize for the many questions.

I'm still baffled by all the mess surrounding the US elections. Before blaming the people, I'm wondering how it is even possible that Trump could be eligible in the first place. How could the administration allow him to be represented after all the felonies, including those where he clearly sold his country by sharing top secret information with Putin? It seems there is evidence that he has been a puppet for decades. I mean, isn’t that the definition of a traitor? What were the secret services doing? Wasn’t the FBI created to combat the very thing Trump is? Where is all the anti-communist sentiment that the US has become accustomed to?

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The question I have is why are felony convictions not considered a disqualification for president but they disqualify everyone else from literally almost any job? I knew someone who got a conviction and was hired by chik fil a then later told whoops we missed that on your application sorry can't hire you.

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So you can't weaponize the courts against your political opponents.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I do not buy this one bit. I accept that it's given as a rationale but the only result of it is leaders being above the law and being held to a lower standard than anyone else.

[–] FanBlade@lemmynsfw.com -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How does it result in that?

Being eligible to run for president is not a factor in someone being perused for justice.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

... did you read the comments above? We're discussing whether or not we should prevent criminals from running for office. When the answer is "no", that allows criminals to get into office. I cannot get a job at Piggly fucking Wiggly if I am a felon.

[–] FanBlade@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, I did read the comments.

Aside from perhaps a couple fringe exceptions, there is noting enshrined in law that prevents a felon from getting a job. A company may decide to not hire someone because they are a felon, that is their choosing and not a result of a law.

An individuals eligibility for running for president does not impact whether or not justice, as defined by our laws, is perused against them.

If I’m understanding correctly you think that criminals should not be eligible. It appeared that you were arguing that in our current system folks are able to be above the law because they are eligible to run from president. I was asking how someone’s eligibility causes them to be above the law.

I know things are very emotional now and that totally makes sense and perhaps is leading to the hostility of your comments. With that in mind I feel I have presented what I’ve set out to and will not reply to your further.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

enshrined in law

Ah yes, the only thing that matters. Hey guys I can't afford groceries so I'll go back to robbing people -- it's okay though, not enshrined in law! I'll just flash my "felon: I can't get a job anywhere" card at the cops and they'll be on their way!

My obvious point that I clearly stated was that if ordinary citizens cannot even support themselves after being convicted (often wrongly btw), then why do politicians get away with it scot fucking free?