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Hey kbinMeta.

Given the news that beehaw.org are defederating from two of the largest Lemmy instances due to issues with moderation, I thought it may be worth @ernest considering closing registrations here, for a while at least.
I've seen that a handful of other kbin instances have been spun up, however, kbin.social currently dwarfs their user numbers. kbin.social is currently sat at over 28,000 registered users, with the next highest, fedia.io sitting at around 3,000 users. I may be incorrect on this, but as far as I'm currently aware, @ernest is the only admin, I believe he may have mentioned that he's taken a couple of additional trusted users on board, but at this time, I can't find receipts to back that up, however, I am aware of the immense pressure that @ernest is in to keep things not only running smoothly, but also moving forward.

The workload overwhelmed me, and I couldn't read all your messages.

This is in relation to account deletion requests alone, and understandably, this explosion in popularity and userbase was not only unexpected for @ernest, but possibly also for the platform itself:

Kbin was designed with small instances in mind.

~~Apparently fedia.io have already disabled open resgistrations due to usercount~~, (although that may be unverified, as this post from the fedia.io admin doesn't suggest that, but still food for thought.). [This is not the case, they just aren't federating, as confirmed by Jerry, thanks! I think Jerry's comment is still very relevant to the topic at hand, however.]

Now, I've already seen a handful of comments denigrating beehaw.org from some of the defederated site users, as well as users local to kbin.social whose accounts were made after the defederation. This is more than likely to result in kbin.social also being defederated from beehaw.org, if not others. I completely understand that this is the nature of the fediverse, and that no one instance is going to be completely open with every other instance, however, I think it's worth considering that we "have our own house in order", namely in the shape of more site-wide moderation, instead of keeping the floodgates open for every reddit refugee or otherwise.

I'm well aware that many may disagree with this, but I think it's something to consider.

Edit: Edited title of post. I just want to clarify, I don't mean close registrations for good, just while things calm down a little bit / ernest has chance to get a solid moderation / admin team in place.

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[โ€“] gus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Totally unrelated to this discussion but my curiosity got me:

beehaw users will see an altered version that hides/removes lemmyworld posts.

What would it look like for someone on beehaw if the comment chain went like this: kbin comment>lemmy.world comment>kbin comment? Would beehaw still see the 3rd comment? Or will it kill everything after the lemmy.world comment, kbin or not?

[โ€“] Otome-chan@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

What would it look like for someone on beehaw if the comment chain went like this: kbin comment>lemmy.world comment>kbin comment? Would beehaw still see the 3rd comment? Or will it kill everything after the lemmy.world comment, kbin or not?

theoretically beehaw will see the kbin comments, but not the lemmyworld comment. as for how this looks in their ui/site idk. it may just end up hiding everything that's a response to lemmyworld unless you directly access the url for the later kbin comments.

think about what happens on twitter when someone replies to a tweet that is later deleted. on twitter it just says "this tweet was deleted" or something like that, but you can see the replies still if you have the url. I think this might be the case but don't quote me on that.

Basically: all kbin posts are still syncing with beehaw. lemmyworld posts are not. how that displays in their ui is unclear.