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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I hope it was worth it for you, spreading ideas that helped trump. I'm sure he'll completely flip his stance on Palestine any minute now

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You people who attacks everyone who are not 100% into the Democrats are the reason she lost.

Burying your head in the sand for the sake of proving your unconditional support for a party only works for the right-wingers, not the left. Making everyone not completely on your side their enemy is also a tactic that only works for the right.

You're just being stupid by adopting their tactics and expecting it to work instead of making as many allies as you can. Good change only happens when you offer your hand to other people instead of chastising them for not offering their hand.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yes it wasn't the voters who voted, unless they voted against trump in which case it's their fault trump won and definitely not the pieces of shit swarming the Internet with the idea that Palestine will be helped by electing the guy who promised to helped genocide Palestine.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago

People like you bury their heads and refuse to listen to the reality that a significant number of voters don't deal well with thinking about future consequences compared to what they are experiencing now. These same people also then decided to reinforce their feelings by attacking these groups instead of proving that their voices are not being ignored. Yes, people like you are part of the problem.

By ignoring reality instead of addressing the concern people have brought up again and again, you reinforce their apathy. This is just the result of that. Have the reality you're seeing now set in for you yet or will you continue blaming everyone else for your contribution to the problem?

[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The thing is, you advocated the approach the dems went for, and lost with. All of the people complaining about Palestine did not. And despite your claims they generally did not believe Trump would have been better.

I'm not saying Palestine cost them the election, the problem is much bigger, but perhaps standing for something or especially standing for what is RIGHT would have made a difference. Turnout could have been the killer and that could have had an impact.

Anyway, I don't really get what caused it but I feel for you all. I don't even live there and it fucking sucks even for me. Shitty day, many more coming.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And here you are again. got any more complaints about Democrats and none about the voters?

[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Trump voters and possible Trump voters are either stupid, racist or not really thinking things through. That is all bad. But is it so confusing for you that people expect the dems to actually manage this situation and genuinely appeal to voters rather than simply expecting voters to stop making bad decisions? What good will blaming the voter do? NONE.

It might feel good, and I can understand that. You're allowed to be mad at them. But they are normal people worried about their grocery bill and (probably) not making detailed analyses of party platforms. The democratic leaders are the ones who are supposed to win at politics by appealing to them.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why does something have to do good to be accurate? By your weird logic the election results cannot be real because they will result in evil

[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It has to do good to be useful. It's accurate to say the voters are at fault for the outcome of the election, it's just so obvious it's downright brain dead and so useless that if analysis stops there it will result in a red 2028 too.

The people who need to improve that we can actually effect change in are the DNC leadership. If you don't see that you are as blind as the MAGA crowd.

By your weird logic the election results cannot be real because they will result in evil

Yeah when your summary of someone's logic is this stupid it's safe to say you have probably misunderstood something.