Idk, my only experience with python is that any app written in it doesn't fucking work, throwing some esoteric error that has nothing to do with the error at hand and then me needing to look up what unholy specific version I need and manually setting up an environment for it. I dread the day when I'll want to try some random project and yet again the only way to run it will be some shady ass python script.

JS is pure crack and has no right being the backbone of the web, but python is borderline unusable in my experience.

[–] Rogue 3 points 1 week ago

I avoid anything written in Python. It's not the language at fault it's the ease of entry so you get a lot of low quality software.

[–] logging_strict@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

U are not wrong.

Dependency management is tough and often frustrating. Dealing with resolving dependency conflicts is unavoidable. This area is a constant focus of development, so could see improvements over time.

Some packages to keep an eye on:

pip & setuptools

pip-tools (specifically pip-compile)

https://pypi.org/project/pip-compile-multi/

poetry

Any others i've missed?

[–] NostraDavid@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

The new king on the block: uv. It can do everything poetry does, while also using a standard pyproject.toml (no more weird ^), and it'll handle the Python version for you, so no faffing about with manually installing anything. Just uv sync and off you go!

Downside: not compatible with virtualenvwrapper, as it'll force its .venv in the local folder.

It's also still under heavy development and breaking changes are still expected, but it's already super nice to use.

Same guys (Astral) also made ruff the formatter/linter that they intend to eventually integrate into uv, IIRC.

I'm running all my personal projects under uv and am having a blast. It's so fast.