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Not too long ago, regulations on CBD changed in Germany leading to a plethora of products containing it. As someone who occasionally needs pain medication, I tried some of the products to avoid regular pain killers (ibu). Especially on days with lighter pain, I wished for an alternative to the sledgehammer meds. But I was left standing in the rain. I didn't feel any effect. That's why I would love to hear from your experiments and experience.

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[–] JimmyDean@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is a tricky question. I'm inclined to have a positive opinion about CBD, but if I'm completely honest I don't feel much of anything from it solo. I've taken CBD by itself multiple times and it always just seemed like a placebo. I think CBD and THC together have a great synergy, but it really misses the mark when I only have the one without psychoactive effects.

On the other hand, I've had friends swear by CBD tinctures. They were doing large doses (like 50mg+) daily and claimed it had all sorts of benefits for their chronic pain or upset stomach. I never tried doing doses that big regularly just because of the cost and my previous experiences leaving me dissatisfied.

For what it's worth, Extract Labs is one of the sources I've had recommended to me by a trusted friend.

[–] fades@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes CBD and THC is synergistic but that’s not the end of that story. You should try two things:

  1. Buy actual quality CBD and CBG oil

  2. put each under your tongue for ~90 seconds, add THC if you want

You don’t need to chug a bottle of oil and the end goal isn’t to feel high it doesn’t manage pain the way THC or other pain killers do

[–] FUsername@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you for passing on the recommendation! I'm a little scared to go with any significant fraction of THC... Maybe my dose was just too low so far.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

IRC you can't even buy CBD oil with a significant amount of THC in Germany.

Honestly, if you live near the border with NL or know someone, you're better off smoking a joint or making some brownies, or buying actual cannabis oil with THC from time to time. It'll make you high if you take too much, but IME does actually work unlike CBD alone which has little scientific evidence of working.

Sure, drugs bad. But honestly, weed is far less dangerous than alcohol. IME also tends to wear off after max 4 hours even if you smoked far too much, unlike alcohol where you can be slightly drunk the next day, not notice, and end up driving drunk. Ibuprofen really isn't great used longterm. Neither is paracetamol. Be careful about interactions with other medication though.

Buy some actual cannabis oil, make some brownies, experiment how much is needed to get you high. Take a little less than that.

And hope Germany fully legalizes soon. Even if you never use weed, if some people smoke a joint rather than drink, it'll result in less vomit and fighting.

[–] wolfshadowheart@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On the other hand, I’ve had friends swear by CBD tinctures. They were doing large doses (like 50mg+) daily and claimed it had all sorts of benefits for their chronic pain or upset stomach.

That's because their endocannabinoid system is actively in use, unlike people who do not take CBD supplements. We metabolized CBD very well and our bodies will use it when it's there, so for a lot of people taking CBD they need to jump-start the endocannabinoid system to start processing it.

Often times people will take 1000mg for the first week (or two), then cut that in half to 500mg, then in half for until you are down to 50mg or 15mg doses. Normally we'd have been getting our CBD compounds from the things we eat that eat hemp, something that was prevalent as a feed in the U.S. and is still prevalent in other countries (Nepal, for example). However since we stopped using hemp, animals stopped passing on CBD compounds to us and here we are today with a society full of symptoms of a non-working endocannabinoid system (and well, signs of lead poisoning but lets just move past that...) which include - chronic nerve pain, gastrointestinal issues, issues with insomnia, mood and anxiety. You know, everything that we attribute to just the daily struggles of society today.

Of course, they most likely are just that, but it seems pretty crazy to me that we have a whole system in our body that is essentially on the backburner with very high correlation to many of the health problems.

Just remember, don't be afraid of THC. They need each other to work effectively, and THC doesn't have to mean high. Obviously, if it's a legality issue that's a different story, but in regards to an edible that has >5% or uses the letters LOC then don't even think about it for a second - it's fine. Think of its present as the catalyst for the reaction.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Germany allows max 0.2% THC. Ie. might as well have no THC at all.

Realistically, I think CBD oil sold in much of Europe is a scam because of similar regulation.

You're better off buying actual weed, but adjusting the dose, than wasting your money on what they sell in health shops here.