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OK, its just a deer, but the future is clear. These things are going to start kill people left and right.

How many kids is Elon going to kill before we shut him down? Whats the number of children we're going to allow Elon to murder every year?

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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

At the same time, it would have located it if it was using radar, but Musk decided that cameras are the future (contrary to all other brands)

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah. I mean, I understand the premise, I just think it's flawed. Like, you and I as vehicle operators use two cameras when we drive (our two eyes). It's hypothetically sufficient in terms of raw data input.

Where it falls apart is that we also have brains which have evolved in ways we don't even understand to consume those inputs effectively.

But most importantly, why aim for parity at all? Why NOT give our cars the tools to "see" better than a human? I want that!

[–] Turbonics@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No human could have avoided that deer without swerving their car.

A lidar provides superhuman vision which works in the dark and through fog. Elon is making a human car and ignores all the limits we have that can be solved in other ways.

A human is a general purpose organism. We are not designed as specialized driving machines.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I completely agree that if there are tools that can allow a vehicle to "see" better than a human it's absurd not to implement them. Even if musk could make a car exactly as good as a human, that's a low bar. It isn't good enough.

As for humans: if you are operating a vehicle such that you could not avoid killing an unexpected person on the road, you are not safely operating the vehicle. In this case, it's known as "over driving your headlights", you are driving at a speed that precludes you from reacting appropriately by the time you can perceive an issue.

Imagine if it wasn't a deer but a chunk of concrete that would kill you if struck at speed. Perhaps a bolder on a mountain pass. A vehicle that has broken down.

Does Musk's system operate safely? No. The fact that it was a deer is completely irrelevant.